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LIVE COMMENTARY: BARCELONA FEBRUARY TEST - TEST DAY ONE

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As it happened: Test day one
By Pablo Elizalde and Matt Beer

The live commentary has ended. No further updates will be posted.

08:00 Welcome to AUTOSPORT's live coverage of the first day of this week's testing at Barcelona

08:00 It's a clear day in the Catalan city, so expect a lot of running as teams begin their final test before the start of the season

08:01 Fauzy is the first driver to take to the track in the Lotus. He is followed by the Force India of Tonio Liuzzi

08:02 You can find the full line-up for today's test here:

Full Barcelona test driver line-up

08:04 Liuzzi, Alguersuari, Fauzy, de la Rosa, Alonso and Hulkenberg have completed installation laps. No times registered yet

08:06 Hulkenberg sets the first time of the day with the Williams. A 1:37.8

08:06 Webber has also joined the track to completed an installation lap with the Red Bull

08:11 Rosberg has also completed his first lap of the day

08:15 Only Petrov and di Grassi are yet to complete their installation laps

08:16 Jenson Button's timing transponder is not working at the moment. The world champion has done an installation lap

08:17 Fauzy posts a 1:32.913 to move to the top of the times

08:19 The Lotus test driver stays on and lowers the benchmark to 1:32.0, still far from the best times expected today

08:20 Lucas di Grassi takes to the track in the Virgin car to complete his installation lap

08:22 Fauzy has now completed four consecutive timed laps with a best of 1:31.532

08:22 The session has been stopped.

08:23 First red flag of the day, just 23 minutes into the session

08:23 Fauzy appears to have stopped on track

08:25 The Lotus has stopped between turns 9 and 10

08:27 The car is now being recovered and the action should continue in a few minutes

08:33 Our man @NobleF1 has spotted multiple TT winner John McGuinness in the Toro Rosso motorhome

08:33 Green flag

08:35 You can already read this week's AUTOSPORT online here

08:36 Petrov heads out of the pits with the Renault to what is likely to be his first installation lap of the day

08:37 Weather update: Clear skies, air temperature is 11 degrees and track temperature is 19.4

08:37 3mph south westerly wind

08:39 Rosberg moves to the top of the times with a 1:26.8. He is followed by Alonso, who is less than two tenths behind

08:39 1:25.1 for Rosberg

08:41 Pedro de la Rosa is now second quickest in the Sauber, albeit over a second behind Rosberg

08:43 Times are tumbling at the moment. 1:24.3 for Rosberg, the quickest man right now

08:45 The fastest time in the previous test in Barcelona is a 1:18.926, set by Rubens Barrichello in the Brawn in March last year

08:46 But things, and cars, have changed quite a lot since then

08:48 You should follow @ClaireVWilliams if you aren't already. She's great fun:

http://twitpic.com/157zji - After 9 years, I finally have a nickname (that I know of!). I blame twitter for this!

08:49 De la Rosa has completed a six-lap run in the Sauber, moving to second place, just 0.074 behind Rosberg

08:50 Jamie Alguersuari is also going fast with the Toro Rosso

08:53 Button's McLaren is still having transponder issues and his times are not being recorded

08:54 So the world champion's times are anyone's guess

08:55 This is good advice from Toro Rosso...

@ToroRossoSpy: Isle of Man TT legend John McGuinness in our hospitality. Youtube him riding a lap of the track to see what real men do for a living.

08:58 It appears that Button's timing problems have been solved, as the Briton is now fourth in the timesheet

08:59 Di Grassi sets the seventh fastest time, leaving Webber and Petrov as the only two drivers without a time

09:01 Rosberg is back on track, joining Button, Liuzzi and Hulkenberg

09:04 Over an hour after the start of the day, Hulkenberg is the man with the most laps: 13, followed by de la Rosa with 12

09:05 Rosberg becomes the first driver to lap in the 1:23s, extending his lead at the top of the times even more

09:07 The Mercedes GP driver has also set the second quickest time now, with a lap of 1:24.0

09:09 Rosberg is removed from the top spot by Webber, who has set a 1:23.512

09:11 It was either Webber's first flying of the day, or his transponder wasn't working properly either, because he is already on 13 laps

09:14 Webber goes even quicker: 1:23.335

09:16 Newcomers Virgin and Lotus are still in the garage, with four and seven laps completed respectively

09:17 Webber is back into the pits after a four-lap run. Average time for the run: 1:24.609

09:20 Button and Hulkenberg sharing the track now. The Williams driver is the busiest man so far with 23 laps

09:20 Lotus is expecting to return to action soon after the problem that stopped Fauzy earlier on

09:21 It was a minor hydraulic problem what forced the Malaysian driver to stop

09:22 The session has been stopped.

09:22 Second red flag of the day

09:23 It seems to have been caused by Alonso stopping on track

09:26 The Ferrari driver has stopped before Turn 10

09:29 Laps update while there's no action: Hulkenberg 24, Rosberg 17, Webber 16, Alguersuari 16, Liuzzi 13, Alonso 11, Button 9, Fauzy 7, di Grassi 4

09:30 Alonso's car is being recovered back to the pits

09:32 Green flag

09:35 Webber, Alguersuari, Button an de la Rosa take to the track after the stoppage

09:36 De la Rosa returns to the garage, as Hulkenberg is back out

09:36 Renault's Vitaly Petrov is the only driver who have not set a time yet, over 1.5 hours after the start of the test

09:39 And the Russian now sets his first lap time of the day: 1:29.5

09:42 One team missing from Barcelona is Campos, but new team boss Colin Kolles is still hopeful it will make it to Bahrain. Full story here:

Kolles confident Campos will be ready

09:44 Fauzy is back on track following his problems over an hour ago

09:45 The Lotus driver completes an installation lap and returns to his garage

09:46 Williams looks determined to make good use of the day. Hulkenberg is already on his 31st lap

09:47 The German is known as the only driver to be able to update his Twitter while driving

09:49 Rosberg is on a long-ish run now. His pit board says he has 12 laps left. He has improved his best time to a 1:23:709

09:52 The five quickest of the day man are on track at the moment: Webber, Rosberg, de la Rosa, Alguersuari and Button sharing the Spanish circuit

09:54 De la Rosa joins the 1:23s with the Sauber

09:55 The Spaniard makes another improvement, to 1:23.7. He is less than a tenth off Rosberg's best

09:57 De la Rosa stops after a four-lap run, with an average time of 1m24.078

09:59 Lucas di Grassi finally heads out of the pits after his four laps earlier on

10:01 Lotus is having air conditioning issues:

@twlotusracing: Our office is DIRTY hot as we're having a minor aircon issue, good excuse to visit pit and have a wander around the paddock

10:02 But no problems with the car, it seems, as Fauzy is back in action

10:05 Rosberg is on the 12th lap of his current stint. The Mercedes GP driver is lapping in the 1:24s and 25s

10:06 The German is the only man on track at the moment

10:08 McLaren appears to be trying a new pitstop device at Barcelona

10:08 Rosberg ends his 14-lap run with an average time of 1:25.181

10:11 Hulkenberg moves into second spot with a 1:23.435

10:12 And now goes top with the first 1:22 of the day, over six tenths ahead of Webber

10:13 @NobleF1: I understand Mercedes GP is to bring some aerodynamic updates to its car for the second day of the test - although unsure yet exactly what

10:14 Hulkenberg is back in the pits after a three-lap run: Two 1:22s and a 1:23

10:16 De la Rosa takes to the track again. He is joined by Petrov and Liuzzi

10:17 An update from Lotus:

@MikeGascoyne: Doing lambda sensor runs for engine so no representative laps yet

10:18 Di Grassi rejoins the action in the Virgin car. He has managed nine laps so far

10:19 Andy Soucek has begun life as a Virgin reserve driver at Barcelona today

10:20 As team-mate di Grassi pits again without setting a lap time

10:22 Fauzy is back out with the Lotus, joining Petrov, Alguersuari and Liuzzi

10:24 Liuzzi makes a significant improvement to move into sixth position

10:25 And this is what the Italian is busy doing:

@clubforce: Tonio now running through race preparation - simulating a lap behing the pace car now. Tonio has also done some practice pit stops

10:27 Button has joined the action, setting a 1:24.582 as his best lap of the day so far

10:28 Fauzy back to the pits after a two-lap run with no significant time set

10:30 Button and Petrov stop, leaving Alguersuari alone on track

10:31 For those who are not aware, there is supposed to be a proper lunch break at 1pm local time. Unlike Jerez, the break means there is no action on track for one hour

10:31 Or at least that's the theory

10:32 Alguersuari pits and Petrov rejoins. The Russian has completed 19 laps so far with the Renault

10:33 Interesting shot of the wheel fairing device from Ferrari

10:34 Lotus has completed its engine runs

10:37 Hulkenberg and Webber, the two quickest men, are on track now. De la Rosa, Petrov, di Grassi and Fauzy too

10:39 Both di Grassi and Fauzy improve and move into the 1:29s, the Brazilian still ahead of the Malaysian

10:39 1:28.654 for di Grassi, who jumps ahead of Petrov in the times

10:41 Another improvement for the Virgin driver: 1:28.234

10:43 Top man Hulkenberg completes a three-lap run and returns to the pits. His best was a 1:23.281

10:44 1:28.109 for di Grassi, who is the quickest of the three men on track. He's sharing the circuit with Petrov and Fauzy

10:45 Renault is carrying out pitstop practice today with Petrov

10:47 Williams, meanwhile, is catering for 150 guests during today and tomorrow: http://twitpic.com/158c7j (courtesy of @ClaireVWilliams)

10:48 Di Grassi pits after an eight-lap run. His average lap time was 1m29.147

10:49 Webber shoots to the top of the times with a 1m22.332, over four tenths quicker than Hulkenberg

10:51 The Australian now sets a 1:23.095 in the Red Bull

10:53 Webber pits after those two laps

10:55 Like di Grassi, Fauzy has completed en eight-lap run, with an average of 1:30.564. The Lotus driver is still at the bottom of the times

10:56 Rosberg, de la Rosa, Alguersuari and Petrov are in action now

10:57 Force India happy with its pitstop work so far:

@clubforce: Lots of pitstop practice for Force India now. Looking good.

10:58 Fernando Alonso is the driver with the smallest number of laps. Just 11 for the Spaniard, who hasn't returned to the track after stopping with a problem earlier on

11:00 Webber heads out again

11:02 The lap count at 12pm is: Alguersuari 50, Hulkenberg 44, de la Rosa 40, Webber 38, Rosberg 38, Petrov 36, Fauzy 27, Button 24, Liuzzi 23, di Grassi 20, Alonso 11

11:03 Webber's first flyer is a 1:22.6, three tenths off his best

11:03 And the second a 1:22.509. The Red Bull driver appears to be doing another low-fuel run

11:04 Another two-lap run and Webber returns to his garage. Rosberg is left alone on track

11:05 Rosberg is joined by Button, Petrov and Fauzy

11:07 Petrov going in and out as Renault continues doing pitstop practice

11:09 Another run for Webber, who leaves the pits again

11:12 The Red Bull racer sets the quickest time with a 1:22.243

11:13 And another improvement - 1:22.017 - as Webber is now over sixth tenths faster than his closest rival

11:15 Webber has completed three two-lap runs in the last minutes

11:17 There cannot be a lot of doubts about the speed of the Red Bull in qualifying trim

11:18 Hulkenberg heads out of the pits for another run. Will he be able to challenge Webber?

11:21 Not a bad effort from the Williams driver: a 1:22.795 on his first flying lap

11:22 But a 1:28 on his second attempt

11:23 And back with a 1:22.737 on the third lap

11:24 Di Grassi gets into the 1:27s

11:25 As Webber flies again, lowering his best time to a 1:21.487!

11:25 Webber is now over a 1.1 seconds ahead of Hulkenberg. He is also the only driver in the 1:21s

11:26 The Australian's second flyer is also a 1:21, but some four tenths slower than the previous one

11:28 Di Grassi has also managed a couple of improvements and has now a 1:27.377 as his best time

11:29 Last half hour of action before the one-hour lunch break. Ferrari still working on Alonso's car. Not the best day for the Italian squad, who has managed just 11 laps all morning

11:30 Webber is back out. Everyone will be watching his times closely

11:31 1:21.8 for the Red Bull man

11:33 And a 1:22.1 now. Not quite the same pace as before

11:35 Petrov has improved his best to a 1:26.848, leaving the two new teams at the bottom of the times

11:35 The session has been stopped.

11:36 Someone appears to have gone off at Turn 9

11:37 The third red flag of the day has been caused by di Grassi, who has just crashed against the tyre barriers, apparently

11:39 The Brazilian is uninjured and out of the car but the Virgin machine is damaged

11:41 This could be the end of the day's work for Virgin

11:46 Green light

11:46 Fifteen minutes left before the lunch break. Liuzzi heads out

11:48 The Spanish crowd goes crazy as Alonso finally returns to the track with the Ferrari

11:49 The Ferrari driver had not done any running since he stopped at 9:22. Now he has improved on his first flying lap

11:51 Compatriot de la Rosa also manages to improve and moves into third with the Sauber. Only di Grassi and Webber are not running at the moment

11:52 1:22.878 for Rosberg, who is now third

11:53 The Mercedes GP driver jumps up to second with a 1m22.670. Alonso up to fifth with a 1:24.5

11:55 Rosberg pits and that seems to be his morning work done before the lunch break

11:56 Most drivers are still on track for the final four minutes of action before the break

11:57 Drivers are slowly retuning to the pits

12:01 Rosberg still finds time to improve, now to a 1:22.514

12:04 And the action stops at Barcelona. More after the one-hour lunch break

12:58 The action at Barcelona is about to begin again after the lunch break

12:59 Ferrari reports that Alonso missed most of the morning's running due to an electronic issue

13:03 It appears Virgin will not be running anymore today after di Grassi's accident before the lunch break

13:04 Heikki Kovalainen is happy with the progress made by Lotus today:

@H_Kovalainen: I will be driving on Sunday only, Jarno driving the next 2 days after today as planned. We are making good progress again today...

13:11 Alonso is the first man to return from lunch, and takes to the track, much to the delight of his fans

13:14 The Ferrari driver sets the first time of the afternoon: 1:26.438

13:16 1:26.466 on his second flying lap. Alonso has the track to himself

13:16 1:25.600 and it looks like the Ferrari driver is going to do a five-lap run

13:18 A 1:26.265 on the fourth lap

13:18 Webber heads out of the pits and joins Alonso on track

13:20 Only briefly though, as the Australian is back into the pits following an installation lap. Alonso drives through the pits and comes back out

13:20 He is joined by Liuzzi in the Force India

13:21 There has been quite a lot of pitstop practice today

13:24 Alonso pits and leaves Liuzzi as the sole runner

13:25 Virgin will know in an about hour if di Grassi can return to action today

13:29 Button, on 44 laps so far today, leaves his garage while Liuzzi continues to carry out pitstop practice

13:30 Rosberg also jumps onto the track with the Mercedes

13:30 And is joined by Webber

13:33 Rosberg has pitted while Button has completed three timed laps on this current. A 1:25.251 is the best one so far

13:35 Just Button and Webber out at the moment. The rest of the teams are taking it easy before hitting the track after lunch

13:36 There was also GP2 qualifying today:

Bianchi claims maiden GP2 pole

13:37 What will Kovalainen say to this?

@MikeGascoyne: Heikki has been here this morning watching. Now going back to hotel, he says to train, we think for a game of golf

13:39 Button pops into the pits four laps into his run, but swiftly rejoins.

13:41 Alonso hits the track again. The Ferrari driver has to make up for time lost to this morning's electronics problem, having only managed 31 laps so far.

13:43 A slight improvement for Alonso straightaway - down to 1m24.3s - but no change in position.

13:44 @nobleF1: "Looks like Webber is running much heavier this afternoon - his stint so far is 1m29.833s, 1m28.915s, 1m28.504s"

13:44 Alonso knocks another 0.2s off his best time.

13:45 The track is starting to get busier again after the lunchtime lull: Webber, Hulkenberg, Alonso, Alguersuari and Fauzy are now out.

13:47 Webber is now eight laps into this run, and his times have come down from an initial 1m29s to a string of 1m27s.

13:48 Alonso had started out with a run of 1m24s, but has slowed to 1m26.0s now.

13:50 Fauzy takes half a second off his previous best time, while Rosberg returns to the track.

13:52 Alonso's times are now back into the high 1m24.9s, with Webber and Hulkenberg both doing 1m27s at present.

13:52 Alguersuari has just pitted after a six lap run that saw him average 1m27.8s.

13:57 Hulkenberg, Alonso and Fauzy have all pitted, leaving Webber and Rosberg on track, with Liuzzi nipping out between pitstop practices.

14:00 Fauzy had done seven laps, averaging in the 1m31s, Hulkenberg seven laps averaging in 1m29s thanks to a few slow times, and Alonso did 10 laps with an average of 1m26.s.

14:01 A quick summary of the order with two hours to go, laps completed in brackets: 1 Webber 1m21.487s (77); 2 Rosberg 1m22.514s (65); 3 Hulkenberg 1m22.684s (69); 4 Pedro de la Rosa 1m23.321s (53); 5 Fernando Alonso 1m24.170s (43); 6 Jenson Button 1m24.582s (56); 7 Jaime Alguersuari 1m24.869s (79); 8 Tonio Liuzzi 1m25.303s (43); 9 Vitaly Petrov 1m26.208s (54); 10 Lucas di Grassi 1m27.057s (31); 11 Fairuz Fauzy 1m29.268s (45)

14:02 Here's what Force India is up to, from @clubforce: "Going to practice qualifying stops now where only four people can be in the pit lane at once now. Tonio just left the garage"

14:02 @clubforce: "Now it's simulating a safety car and queued cars - they're trying every possible scenario there could be in a race"

14:04 Alguersuari and de la Rosa leave the pits to join Webber and Rosberg.

14:10 Reports coming in of a small amount of rainfall around the Catalunya track.

14:10 Times are holding up okay though, with Alguersuari in the 1m25s and de la Rosa in 1m24s.

14:11 Evidence of the weather change from @noblef1: "Toro Rosso's press man has got a wet scalp on the way up to the media centre"

14:12 Having ended his day's running with a crash just before lunch, @lucasdigrassi reports that "the causes of the accident are still being investigated"

14:13 Button is back out again now.

14:14 The session has been stopped.

14:15 Another red flag has just come out.

14:17 Mark Webber has caused this stoppage. The Red Bull has come to a halt somewhere in the middle part of the track.

14:19 Looks like it's Turn 7 where Webber has stopped.

14:19 The Red Bull driver, who had been comfortably fastest this morning, was 26 laps into a run, most of them in the 1m27s.

14:23 The session has restarted.

14:23 Liuzzi is first out as the green flag flies.

14:24 No doubt about who is the star attraction today - this is the crowd of photographers around Alonso's car a short time ago.

14:25 Liuzzi is straight back in again. Now Petrov leaves the pitlane.

14:25 Looks like Liuzzi might be resuming pit practice.

14:26 Rosberg has set out too.

14:27 Button starts a run as well.

14:28 @lucasdigrassi undeterred by this morning's crash: "I am fine, thanks. Next time I will go even faster, always pushing more and more"

14:31 Fauzy has resumed running, lapping in the 1m30s.

14:34 Now on track: Rosberg, Alonso, Button, Petrov and Fauzy.

14:35 Rosberg is five laps into a run that started in 1m23s but is now in 1m25s, Button looks like he's running heavy, having done three laps in 1m27s/1m28s.

14:39 @noblef1: "It looks like drivers are settling down for some long runs this afternoon - but don't rule out some glory runs at the end of the day"

14:41 Alguersuari comes out again. Rosberg is back in the 1m24s, with Alonso on a similar pace.

14:45 Fauzy pits after bringing Lotus's total for the day up to 56. Most times in that eight lap stint were 1m29s/1m30s.

14:50 Liuzzi and de la Rosa have hit the track too, so six of the 11 teams present are now in action.

14:55 And now it's just Rosberg, Alonso and Button as the smaller teams have pitted.

15:01 A big improvement from Fauzy, down to 1m28.482s - although he's still 6.9s off the overall pace and 1.4s shy of fellow new team Virgin, which has not run since di Grassi's accident.

15:02 Into the last hour, here's a times and laps recap: 1 Webber 1m21.487s (87); 2 Rosberg 1m22.514s (100); 3 Hulkenberg 1m22.684s (69); 4 de la Rosa 1m23.321s (65); 5 Alonso 1m24.170s (59); 6 Button 1m24.582s (82); 7 Alguersuari 1m24.869s (95); 8 Liuzzi 1m25.303s (52); 9 Petrov 1m26.208s (62); 10 di Grassi 1m27.057s (31); 11 Fauzy 1m28.044s (59)

15:03 Fauzy finds more time, down to 1m28.0s now.

15:04 A string of long runs have ended in the last few minutes. Rosberg did 24 laps, averaging 1m24.6s, Button did 20 laps with an average of 1m28.0s, and Alonso ran for 14 laps averaging 1m26.1s

15:05 Rosberg is back out already, but it's only him and Fauzy on the circuit now.

15:10 Fauzy did six laps, all in the 1m28s and 1m29s. Alguersuari and Liuzzi are heading out now.

15:12 Track gets busier again - here come Hulkenberg and de la Rosa.

15:12 The session has been stopped.

15:12 But as they do, the session is halted again.

15:14 Looks like it's Rosberg who has stopped on track, after Turn 10.

15:22 The session has restarted.

15:22 Alguersuari is first to leave the pits as the green flag comes out with just over half an hour remaining.

15:23 Hulkenberg, Alonso and de la Rosa set off too.

15:24 And Liuzzi and Fauzy as well.

15:27 Pacesetter Webber reappears after stopping on track earlier this afternoon.

15:28 De la Rosa and Liuzzi both go a fraction quicker than they previously had, without any change of positions.

15:28 Liuzzi then finds another 0.3s and takes seventh from Alguersuari.

15:31 Liuzzi keeps improving - but only by 0.001s this time.

15:32 Everyone bar Rosberg, Hulkenberg and di Grassi's damaged Virgin is now on track. Will we see a flurry of improvements in the last half hour?

15:32 Slightly quicker for de la Rosa again, down to 1m23.144s.

15:33 Liuzzi's times now suggest he's doing performance runs again, having done a thorough series of pitstop simulations earlier in the afternoon.

15:34 Button shaves 0.6s from his time and gets past Alonso for fifth.

15:35 While Petrov goes nearly 2s faster than he has all day and improves to seventh for Renault.

15:35 Quicker still for Button next time around - down to 1m23.5s.

15:37 Another improvement from Petrov brings him very close to Alonso's sixth place.

15:38 Hulkenberg goes a tenth faster and takes second place from Rosberg - although Webber's margin over the field remains a full second.

15:40 Just short runs for most of the drivers that time, with the majority returning to the pits and leaving just Webber, Button and Alonso circulating.

15:41 Webber is nine laps into this run, and doing consistent 1m25s.

15:41 Alonso has done 12 laps, and started in the high 1m24s, then shot up to 1m27s/1m28s for a while, but is now in low 1m25s.

15:42 And Button has done seven laps, mostly in high 1m23s.

15:44 Alonso has pitted after a 13 lap run mostly in 1m24s and 1m25s. Fauzy is back out.

15:45 Webber's times have come down to 1m24s, Button is reeling off consistent mid-1m23s.

15:46 Button improves by a further 0.027s.

15:48 A slight gain from Fauzy too, who is now on 1m28.002s.

15:49 Hulkenberg has rejoined and found another tenth, but Webber is still 0.9s ahead.

15:50 Now on track with 10 minutes to go: Webber, Hulkenberg, Button, Petrov, Alguersuari, Fauzy.

15:52 While some are doing short sprints to end the day, Webber and Button press on with their long runs - up to 17 and 15 laps respectively on these stints now.

15:53 Webber is in mid to high 1m24s, Button was doing consistent mid-1m23s but with a couple of substantially slower laps mid-run.

15:55 Alonso is back out, as are Petrov, Liuzzi and Alguersuari.

15:55 Just five minutes left so anyone keen to beat Webber today is going to have to make an enormous improvement.

15:55 And Hulkenberg, who has crept ever closer to Webber on his last few runs.

15:56 Liuzzi improves to 1m24.064s and takes sixth from Alonso.

15:56 The session has been stopped.

15:57 Not for the first time in recent tests, a red flag comes out with less than five minutes to go...

15:57 Looks like someone has stopped at Turn 10.

15:57 It's Button who has stopped in the McLaren.

15:58 Now waiting to see if that marks the end of today's running or if the session will be extended.

15:59 That's the end of the action for today.

16:00 So Webber ends up fastest by a comfortable 0.9s thanks to that string of fast late-morning laps, with Hulkenberg and Rosberg next up.

16:00 Alguersuari completed the most mileage today with 111 laps, just ahead of Webber on 109, Rosberg on 107 and Button on 101.

16:00 Thanks for following today's events with AUTOSPORT Live, join us again for more tomorrow.

FASTEST TIMES

P	Driver	Team	Time
1	Webber	Red Bull	1m21.487s
2	Hulkenberg	Williams	1m22.407s +0.920
3	Rosberg	Mercedes	1m22.514s +1.027
4	de la Rosa	Sauber	1m23.144s +1.657
5	Button	McLaren	1m23.452s +1.965
6	Liuzzi	Force India	1m24.064s +2.577
7	Alonso	Ferrari	1m24.170s +2.683
8	Petrov	Renault	1m24.173s +2.686
9	Alguersuari	Toro Rosso	1m24.869s +3.382
10	Di Grassi	Virgin	1m27.057s +5.570
11	Fauzy	Lotus	1m28.002s +6.515

All timing unofficial. Updated: 15:56 GMT

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Hack (08:00) Join the debate as testing resumes at the Circuit de Catalunya.

Mastah (08:00) good morning :wave:

harsha (08:01) Third

harsha (08:01) Yaaay

AndyW35 (08:01) Morning Mastah! :wave:

Nice weather :up:

Mastah (08:02) hey andy :wave:

pit5bul (08:03) morning

pit5bul (08:03) cant wait to see the updates every1 is bringing here

AndyW35 (08:03) morning all. Should be fun today!

Buzz47 (08:03) Mawning :-)

Mastah (08:03) FP Results: Valsecchi, Bianchi, Turvey, Filippi, Bird, Ricci, Oscopo, Vietoris, Rossi and Parente - jules :clap:

AndyW35 (08:03) Yes, will Mercedes really have a new wing and diffuser ? Somwe sad people if not ....

Mastah (08:04) williams live timing is also working manually here, in barcelona :clap:

froggy22 (08:04) i would be mpre excited about today if i didnt have an exam :mad:

Mastah (08:04) yeah, but it will be the end of f1

- i heard it creates black hole

Mastah (08:05) first lap by the hulk - 1:37.821

AndyW35 (08:05) It sucks out all Schumachers facial hair ... :lol:

Mastah (08:06) :lol:

Herth (08:08) Hello everyone

Zod100 (08:08) Morning all :clap:

Zod100 (08:09) What's the weather like today at Barca?

AndyW35 (08:10) sunny!

Herth (08:10) Dry, around 15 Celcius right now

Zod100 (08:11) Nice, well we now know not to trust the weatherman

Dalton007 (08:11) 2 weeks to go :clap:

Buzz47 (08:11) does anyone have the url of the big fat Greek timing site?

Mastah (08:11) yeah, only 15 days :clap:

Mastah (08:12) ScarbsF1

Barcelona: I will have to send my reports later tonight as I have a Funeral to attend today - meh :well:

Mastah (08:13) NobleF1

And it looks like we will have to guess what McLaren is up to, as its timing transponder is not working

Mika Mika (08:13) sneeky mcmerc

Dalton007 (08:14) USF1 :down:

fenixracing (08:18) what is a normale time at barca

Jack McGhee (08:18) :wave:

Razgreez (08:18) :wave:

Mastah (08:18) 1:20 qual

Jack McGhee (08:18) Morning gents.

Razgreez (08:18) yeah, was just gonna ask for some parity fenix

DrChatNuff (08:20) wha gwaan :wave:

Yatindra (08:20) :wave:

hello everyone

stevvy1986 (08:20) morning everyone :wave:

Herth (08:21) http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=10929

there is the greek timing site, click on the driver
for his personal lapchart!

Buzz47 (08:22) Thanks Herth

nish2280 (08:22) What kinda times are we supposed to be looking for?

Mastah (08:22) 1:20

Zod100 (08:23) There's a virgin on the track LOL :lol:

Mastah (08:23)

Buzz47 (08:23) 1.21 - 1.23 I guess...

stevvy1986 (08:23) red flag

Yatindra (08:23) red flagged already :S

Mastah (08:23) it's lotus

Buzz47 (08:23) Cue the same old tired Virgin jokes as the last three tests...

froggy22 (08:24) i think its time di grassi rides that virgin like theres no tomorrow

Mastah (08:24) http://twitpic.com/157wvj nice

AndyW35 (08:24) I have yet to crack my virgin media joke yet, I am keeping it warm for later

Mastah (08:25) poem joke?

Herth (08:25) that's a nice gadget indeed Mastah hehe
which team is using it?

Mastah (08:26) williams

Mastah (08:26) http://twitpic.com/157x0b refuelling this year

MadYarpen (08:27) looks like a joke to me

MadYarpen (08:27) hi there by the way :wave:

Buzz47 (08:27) I hope Virgin's hydraulic issues have been sorted so they can get some decent running this test...

froggy22 (08:28) thats probably the normal pumps you get at the petrol station

Buzz47 (08:31) Fastest test lap at Barcelona Jenson Button 1:13.552 done in 2005

Razgreez (08:32) those were different times though

Buzz47 (08:32) Oops, no, Mike Shoemaker did it in 1:13.471..

Mastah (08:32) that was on old configuration

pinnacle racing (08:32) What happened to the Lotus? Did Fauzy crash it or was there a mechanical breakdown?

fenixracing (08:32) how fast where they last year

pikamoku (08:32) @ Buzz , last year pole was around 1:20:5. Theres new chicane before main straight

morning all :clap:

Buzz47 (08:32) I agree, Razgreez, but it is useful to have a benchmark...

HoldenRT (08:33) someone told me a story about richard branson a few days ago

HoldenRT (08:34) he worked with Virgin airlines up until early this year and went to a staff party last year

nawz (08:34) Great Lotus ran out of fuel already!

Buzz47 (08:34) I reckon we'll see some 1:21 - 1:23s this test

stevvy1986 (08:34) Green flag

Mastah (08:34) we are listening holden

HoldenRT (08:34) branson was in the country and was at the party.. he went into the back room, snorted some coke and came out and did some really funny dancing

Mastah (08:34) :lol:

HoldenRT (08:34) and now whenever I see team virgins car I can't stop picturing bransons dancing

nawz (08:34) Id say mid 20s :P

AndyW35 (08:34) John McGuinness has balls of steel. Very talented 2 wheel rider. :up:

Buzz47 (08:34) I seriously doubt if anyone actually SAW him snorting coke, Holden..

nawz (08:35) i think the virgin car looks awful :S

HoldenRT (08:35) i cant verify that its true but i know that the guy DID work at virgin airlines

hsvone (08:35) drugs are bad m'kay?

Buzz47 (08:36) ...and I doubt whether Branson is stupid enough to bother with coke too...

HoldenRT (08:37) who knows

Buzz47 (08:37) Virgin Airlines probably employs a few thousand people. I'm sure many of them have little stories they like to tell about their boss who at best they've only ever seen from a distance

HoldenRT (08:38) the dancing the guy did looked really funny tho..

Mastah (08:39) NobleF1

Jenson Button is on track, but his timing transponder isn't working :well:

AndyW35 (08:39) It could have been snuff. Ir even Vicks Nasal Spray.

hsvone (08:39) thank goodness for a dry test. so far.

Mastah (08:39) maybe they switched it off?

Mastah (08:40) http://twitpic.com/157yrh i am jealous

pinnacle racing (08:40) What kind of testing can they do without a timing transponder? Don't they have back-ups?

Mastah (08:42) they can test their pace without informing others about that

Mastah (08:43) there's no todt there anymore, so no stopwatches either :lol:

BRK (08:43) Rossie quickest 1:24.311,still three seconds off the pace...

hsvone (08:46) will be hard to beat barrichello's time i think.

pit5bul (08:46) anyone got a pic of the McLaren ?

pit5bul (08:47) the current running package in Barcelona i mean

AndyW35 (08:47) I can imagine Todt in the FIA meetings still holding his stopwatch so they don't overrun

kids like ash (08:48) any word of updates on cars yet?

Mastah (08:49) pit5bul - http://twitpic.com/157yjh

pit5bul (08:52) hmm,,, cant see much... i was wondering if i can spot any changes to the back of the car

hsvone (08:53) is claire williams a relative of frank?

Mastah (08:54) nope, she is claire V-something i think

Razgreez (08:54) indeed mcmerc's situation is quite convenient

hsvone (08:55) ok just wondered.

BRK (08:56) McLaren are taking this to a whole new level,transponder not working indeed..

Lord Snooty (08:57) @mastah: Claire, apparently known as 'Bobble'

the mind boggles...

:cool:

hsvone (08:57) ultimate form of 'sandbagging'. :well:

AndyW35 (08:57) to be fair, transponders not working is fairly common.

BRK (08:57) I know,but this is the final test and you never know...

Buzz47 (08:58) Sandbagging: Bolleaux.

pinnacle racing (08:58) Can a car with a non-working transponder be allowed to race?

BRK (08:59) Okay,fourth.

Mastah (08:59) i was wrong, she is claire williams indeed :blush:

http://www.attwilliams.com/news/view/635

jonathanknevels (08:59) anyone know if the updates are allready on the f10 ?

BRK (09:00) I guess,it's supposed to be chassis 283.

BRK (09:00) Or some such number.

jonathanknevels (09:01) 283 indeed, but i read somewhere that 283 is a backup chassis

BRK (09:02) Right...they're calling this their 'final exam' and whatnot,I suppose they should have some updates on the car. And top the sheets every day.

hsvone (09:03) not frank's wife then?

Mastah (09:03) :wave:

wrighty (09:03) mornin' :wave:

hsvone (09:03) hey wrighty :wave:

Herth (09:04) hi

AndyW35 (09:04) :wave:

wrighty (09:06) 09:04 Over an hour after the start of the day, Hulkenberg is the man with the most laps: 13, followed by de la Rosa with 12.......have they extended the track? :lol:

Herth (09:07) There has been a red flag already, that's why

bolmedias (09:07) Checking in :wave:

wrighty (09:07) ah fairy snuff then

glad to see conditions are good for some decent lappery....hiya bol :wave:

Mastah (09:08) that's new front wing on merc?

Herth (09:08) :wave:

BRK (09:08) Nope,doesn't look like it.

Herth (09:09) doesn't look any different

bolmedias (09:09) new Diffuser on Mercedes yet?

Gilles4Ever (09:10) Mark Webber goes top - 1m23.512

hsvone (09:13) been a long time since we've seen cars 5+ secs off the pace.

BRK (09:13) This transponder confusion is WW2 espionage stuff. Scramble it up to show any times/laps you want on the timing screen.

Buzz47 (09:14) Early day still for "being on the pace"

BRK (09:14) Rossie drops from a string of 1:24s to 1:25 and then a 26.

hsvone (09:15) forti and pacific. :yawn:

hsvone (09:16) oh and the still-born lola.

anbeck (09:17) with pacific being partly lotus, ironically

SuperDaan (09:17) good morning all :clap:

SuperDaan (09:18) any car with new aero updates?

wrighty (09:18) hiya daan :wave:

pime (09:21) :clap:

goood morning

bolmedias (09:21) anyone got any records of the times achieved in Barca by the '09 cars last year?

wrighty (09:21) hi pime :wave:

JacquesHB (09:21) guess what, RED FLAG

kids like ash (09:22) 1.189 i think? by barrichello

hsvone (09:22) 1:18.9 was the fastest time set by brawn.

pime (09:22) hi wrighty :wave:

jcrb (09:22) salut jacques, ca va? c'est jacques ici

BRK (09:22) Button or Alonso?

kids like ash (09:23) oh and good evening all

JacquesHB (09:23) slut Jacques. Ca va et toi?

nish2280 (09:23) their goes ferrari's efficiancy

jcrb (09:23) ben ca va. t'es ou toi?

The Ragged Edge (09:23) In the 09 Brawn, Rubens lapped Barcelona around the 1.18:700s

SuperDaan (09:23) clubforce Red flag - Alonso has stopped in turn 10

gregtheman (09:23) constantly ???

bystander31 (09:24) ferrari stop :eek:

Buzz47 (09:24) Ferrari is limping to the grid?

MadYarpen (09:24) scuderia is doomed than :lol:

wrighty (09:24) hmm that is a surprise

Ravindra Nagpurkar (09:24) Its not a fair comparison to last year's time. cars are quite different this year

BRK (09:24) Aww,I think they're playing their cards too early,are Ferrari.

JacquesHB (09:25) Suis au boulot, en UK

hsvone (09:26) why do they throw red flags so readily in testing?

BRK (09:26) And anyway,why continue with those deliberate zero fuel stoppages this late? Surely the teams would have enough data by now?

Buzz47 (09:27) hsvone: Maybe there are too few marshalls?

Mastah (09:27) hey flash :wave:

FlashMaster (09:27) maybe ferrari want their car back in the garage?

hsvone (09:28) yeah could be.

FlashMaster (09:28) morning mastah

Razgreez (09:28) the more i look at the braw... err i mean merc the better its nose looks and the uglier its (whatever the part between the nose and sidepods is) does :well:

embassie (09:28) hi all :wave:

FlashMaster (09:28) how many medals for poland up to now?

Buzz47 (09:29) ...and of course the teams will want to retrieve their cars...

jcrb (09:29) ah, moi au boulot en allemagne

FlashMaster (09:29)

Mastah (09:29) 3 silvers? i have to check :lol:

stevvy1986 (09:29) simple hsvone-it's testing, less marshals quite likely, also they need to get a truck on track to recover the car, and with it being testing, the idea is to get to car back to the team asap, rather than basically saying 'you had a problem at 9.30am, your day is over now as you wont get the car back until later in the day'

FlashMaster (09:29) I thought Justina K. would get a gold

BRK (09:30) Here we go.

Mastah (09:30) 3 silvers and 1 bronze

Atreiu (09:31) Do you guys want to read one of my F1 poems?

FlashMaster (09:31) is he here? ignore lists

hsvone (09:31) just used to seeing a red flag meaning big shunt track blocked.

FlashMaster (09:31) haha :lol:

Mastah (09:31) yes :cat:

Ravindra Nagpurkar (09:31) oh man - please no more poems - ever

Mastah (09:31) justin says he has lost his form hence "poor" results

nish2280 (09:32) Borntobebrawn i loved your article on sidepodcast

FlashMaster (09:32) no images at xpb.cc and sutton :cry:

want to see the diffusor of destruction :smoking:

BRK (09:32) sarahholtf1 is back.

Atreiu (09:32) Fine, no poems today (thank God).

We`ve had all these stoppage red flags this year. Besides Kovalainen, did anyone actually crash a car?

SaintDean (09:32) the diffuser makes a huge roaring noise as it goes by.

Mastah (09:33) hi borntobebrawn

nish2280 (09:33) wait maybe it wasnt you

similar name though

Brawntobewild i think it was.
sorry

FlashMaster (09:33) yup it was him. good hes on my ignore :drunk:

Buzz47 (09:34) the diffuser sucks up the tarmac...

SaintDean (09:34) borntobetore is back no poems right

hsvone (09:34) not one driver has totalled a chassis yet.

FlashMaster (09:34) maybe merc is just testing their old parts to compare ?!

Mastah (09:35) or maybe schu can't cope with higher downforce = more g-force :cat:

Lord Snooty (09:35) good to see the Hulk doing lots of laps again... if only yhey were a tad faster....

embassie (09:35) petrow didnt make loots of laps ;/

FlashMaster (09:35) blubb

BRK (09:36) They're looking solid at the moment,but then they always do in winter testing..

FlashMaster (09:36) where can I find pictures?

Mastah (09:37) nowhere it seems :mad:

DrChatNuff (09:37) Rosberg N O screwing around 2day, get ur Damn fingers OUT, c'mon M E R C :mad:

Herth (09:37) hahaha

Razgreez (09:38) that update lies, button hasnt set a time either

Ravindra Nagpurkar (09:38) Williams is always promising in testing and 1st 2-3 races and then it goes downhill..though last year seemed a bit different

FlashMaster (09:38) this year they got Hulk :cool:

hsvone (09:39) who was actor who played the real hulk?

BRK (09:39) Learn something new everyday. :cat:

BRK (09:39) JA says the final test will give us an indication of the form for the start of the season.

rghojai (09:39) USf1 set a time yet? Hello everyone.

SantiagoVR (09:39) Edward Norton

gregtheman (09:39) lou ferringo

Ravindra Nagpurkar (09:39) has the Hulk impressed so far ?

hsvone (09:39) well done greg. :up:

FlashMaster (09:39) USF1 who?

Mastah (09:40) USFa1lure

Mastah (09:40) that's who

FlashMaster (09:40) Hulk impressed in every racing series

nish2280 (09:40) forget USF1, bring in Stefan GP

hsvone (09:40) wasn't it ferrigno tho?

BRK (09:41) Did a minor role as himself in another movie I watched last year...

gregtheman (09:41) yea.. ferrigno

BRK (09:41) Some crappy kiddish stuff,had to sit through it because someone rather important wanted to watch.

DrChatNuff (09:42) Virgin still slow i see. computers dont build cars

DrChatNuff (09:42) heard Webber retires at year end, Kimi taking over :stoned:

Mastah (09:43) new autosport's cover - bob, 2010 dark horse, interesting

FlashMaster (09:43) http://www.sutton-images.com/searchresul... first pictures

Mastah (09:43) thanks

Mastah (09:43) wow, so many of them :lol:

FlashMaster (09:44) its updated atm

jcrb (09:44) button's transponder must have gone bananas again... he's on track but seemingly not recording any laps

Herth (09:45) Lotus front wing looks so simple : /
can imagine why they car seems to lack pace

DrChatNuff (09:45) Virgin, Lotus, Campos ... will be double or treble LAPPED at races this year :rolleyes:

jcrb (09:46) ah, seems it works now, just as i was complaining

HoldenRT (09:46) Fastest lap in the race last year was 22.7 by Rubens

Herth (09:46) ready*

Herth (09:46) DrChat, u really? Rossie is out!

FlashMaster (09:46) http://www.sutton-images.com/preview.asp...

new engine cover??

DrChatNuff (09:46) out, but doing W O T

Atreiu (09:47) These overly complicated frong wings are ugly anyhow. Ban them!

Herth (09:47) the fin looks a bit bigger than Jerez FlashMaster

FlashMaster (09:47) now we need a decent diffusor shot

Mandzipop (09:48) Mornin all

Atreiu (09:48) update twitter while dricing

LOL

Atreiu (09:49) I apparently can't type correctly while drinking coffee, yet he can drive and twit.

gregtheman (09:49) The German is known as the only driver to be able to update his Twitter while driving

gregtheman (09:49) hilarious

FlashMaster (09:49) hes super multitasking :eek:

Mandzipop (09:49) Not bad. Not a lot happening at the moment on track is there? :well:

BRK (09:50) Rossie's out on a long run,all I'm interested in.

DrChatNuff (09:50) Cant wait for first race, hopefully with Shumi on p o l e[ yeah dream on] :clap:

BRK (09:51) Why the spaces,ChatNuff?

Herth (09:51) 2 weeks left!

BRK (09:51) Webber heading out,too.

FlashMaster (09:52) chatnuff is here? :lol:

DrChatNuff (09:52) stamp home my p o i n t

stevvy1986 (09:52) you don't need to put spaces to 'stamp home your point'

DrChatNuff (09:53) hol it tight mi breda :smoking:

FlashMaster (09:53) I love the ignore list awwww

Mastah (09:53) as pole i don't want schumacher on me

FlashMaster (09:53) hey stevvy

FlashMaster (09:53) haha mastah

stevvy1986 (09:54) hiya flash

BRK (09:54) Button's done his quickest lap.

FlashMaster (09:54) poles are pretty jealous

DrChatNuff (09:54) pole position :mad:

Mastah (09:55) i'm not

HoldenRT (09:55) why does it say welcome in german on that la caixa scoreboard thing.. are the spanish welcoming schumi back to barcelona track?

DrChatNuff (09:55) polish girl any and every time :blush:

BRK (09:55) Anyway,it's a new track and the teams have zero data for this track with the 2010 cars,I doubt we'll see the ultimate pace of these cars on the first day of testing.

Atreiu (09:55) Perhaps so Holden.

Mastah (09:56) find another name for first place in qual or pay for us for using that term :cat:

BRK (09:56) HoldenRT: no idea,but just noticed that.

Buzz47 (09:56) I presume the teams all arrived at Barcelona on Tues/Weds? If so, why are so many not ready to properly run their cars?.

Buzz47 (09:57) It seems they are happy to waste track time

DrChatNuff (09:57) wots the record fastest time on this track

Buzz47 (09:57) 1:13.4

BRK (09:58) It's an english term,though-I doubt any pole would address another like that.

Atreiu (09:58) Barrichello did a 22.7 during the race last year. I guess that's a more relevant time for comparisions.

Buzz47 (09:58) Schumacher

Atreiu (09:58) 13.4 was with Sato in the old layout, right?

Richard T (09:58) Lap Record: 1:21.670 - K Raikkonen (2008)

FlashMaster (09:58) old layout without the last chicane

DrChatNuff (09:58) :clap:

BRK (09:59) Yeah,minus the last chicane.

Herth (09:59) 2008 cars were soooo different

Richard T (09:59) fastest in Q2 last year was RB with a 1,19.9

Buzz47 (09:59) Go Lucas

Mastah (09:59) better pics there http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/test-sessions/...

FlashMaster (09:59) Q1 Massa 1:20.4 ; Q2 RB 1:19.9

DrChatNuff (10:00) out goes the virgin

SantiagoVR (10:00) Go Lucas GO!!!!!

Mastah (10:00) http://images.gpupdate.net/large/146386.... new bargeboards?

FlashMaster (10:00) maccas sidepods look crazy

Mastah (10:01) http://images.gpupdate.net/large/146382.... :lol:

Richard T (10:01) when did they introduce the stupid chicane?

zarooch (10:01) boyzz

during the last jerez test i was working on a live timing app and was having some permission issues, guess i've solved them:
open this http://zarooch.zxq.net/ . At the moment works only in internet explorer.
In internet explorer properties under the security tab, add this website in the trusted websites and lower the security level to Medium-low, only then you'll be able to see the live timing

Enjoy...

Mastah (10:01) 2007

AndyW35 (10:02) That McLaren does look funky. A big difference between that and the Lotus

Richard T (10:02) hahahaha mastah, What a ugly looking car xD.. of wait, did you mean the rear wing stuff?

FlashMaster (10:02) I dont trust

zarooch (10:02) I'm working on a much enhanced version, which'll allow us to follow the stint times and some coloring in the grid as well, list fastest lap, personal best blabla

Gilles4Ever (10:03) repost the link when I dont have to change security settings

Razgreez (10:03) that equipment is all probably to test current aero but even more to improve their cfd simulations i'm guessing

FlashMaster (10:04) yup Gilles

Buzz47 (10:04) thanks Zarooch

zarooch (10:05)

yea I know its a big off, but i wanted to be transparent with you guys. but yea, it won't harm anything

Atreiu (10:05) They introduced the stupid chincane before the 2007 race, and the silly hairpin before the 2003 race. None of them helped the races or made the track any bit better. Moto GP still races on the previous layout, which had been used since 1995, IIRC.

Razgreez (10:05) is that a black bar between the mcmercs 2 nosehorn thingies or am i seeing things?

HoldenRT (10:05) thanks zarooch :up:

Buzz47 (10:06) Bloody Microsoft...

Buzz47 (10:06) "instal Silverlight" Ummm No. Why on earth would I want to install yet more Microsoft junk on my computer?

hsvone (10:08) yeah remember antitrust? tim robbins.

FlashMaster (10:08) Silverlight is OK

Razgreez (10:08) i'm using the work's pc so i'll install whatever i want on it. if the fit hits the shan they can give me a new one

DrChatNuff (10:08) wots dat

Buzz47 (10:08) I'm on a Mac.

Mastah (10:09) :confused:

stevvy1986 (10:09) Looks like they've decided to stick 2 walkie talkies up

sirsims (10:09) good morning all

DrChatNuff (10:10) :wave:

Herth (10:10) :wave:

Mandzipop (10:10) Mornin :wave:

FlashMaster (10:11) http://www.sutton-images.com/preview.asp...

another m device

sirsims (10:11)

Richard T (10:11) :clap:

jcrb (10:11) nice time from the hulk

Mastah (10:11) :lol:

buzatlas (10:11) http://zarooch.zxq.net/
:up:

Herth (10:12) Hulk on fire, 1:22:6

VAR1016 (10:12) Hello all quick look in.

Anyone got info on times from last year so we know where we are?

buzatlas (10:12) 1.22.6 for hulkenberg

Lord Snooty (10:12) Blimey: has the Hulk had a cup of strong coffee!!

Good to see tho'

:clap:

VAR1016 (10:12) Sorry! Just found them up the list: hmm about three secs to find then?

jcrb (10:13) impressive

sirsims (10:13) 1.18 rubens in the brawn

wrighty (10:13) re: the flashmaster pic, have mclaren been taking a saw to the slot in the back of the engine cover? was that the area that had the silver tape and putty in last week?

jcrb (10:13) feels like qualifying even though the times don't mean a thing.. but nice anyways

Richard T (10:13) i want coffee so bad now thanks to Lord Snooty

Richard T (10:13)

VAR1016 (10:13) Ah thanks Sirsims, so four seconds then!

Lord Snooty (10:14)

FlashMaster (10:14) @NobleF1

I understand Mercedes GP is to bring some aerodynamic updates to its car for the second day of the test - although unsure yet exactly what

BRK (10:14) Hope it's something significant.

BRK (10:14) Ha,second day.

FlashMaster (10:14) HÃ¼lkenberg 1:22.684

VAR1016 (10:14) Coffee: damn' good idea

FlashMaster (10:14) coffee & ciggy

Richard T (10:15) Espresso for me

SchuOz (10:15) buzatlas - that site just loads, but thats all

gregtheman (10:15) whats up with alonsos F10

BRK (10:15) Had a stoppage and caused a red flag,back in the pits.

Mandzipop (10:16) The F10 broke.

VAR1016 (10:16) And ciggy of course :smoking:

moonman79 (10:16) so whats with the weight system mclaren are running on the rear wing???

buzatlas (10:16) re zarooch
open this http://zarooch.zxq.net/ . At the moment works only in internet explorer.
In internet explorer properties under the security tab, add this website in the trusted websites and lower the security level to Medium-low, only then you'll be able to see the live timing

Enjoy...

gregtheman (10:18) live timing with sector times ?

FlashMaster (10:18) still doesnt work for me (medium-low & trusted)

SchuOz (10:18) did all that, but still no go

buzatlas (10:19) no... only best, last lap and number of laps

SantiagoVR (10:19) that we can see in the greek website also

Lord Snooty (10:20) Maybe easier to go to http://www.williamsf1.com/test-timings

buzatlas (10:20) exactly santiago

Atreiu (10:21) What is a lamda sensor?

RoutariEnjinu (10:22) oxygen sensor in exhaust

FlashMaster (10:22) wikipedia

Atreiu (10:22) ok

Herth (10:22) its checking the ratio between intake air and fuel

Atreiu (10:22) Wikipedia won't chat with me, this is more fun. And quicker.

RoutariEnjinu (10:22) for measuring rich/lean ratio

Atreiu (10:23) By the way, can't it be checked over the dyno? Or do conditions varry that much to make need of more tests?

wrighty (10:24) moonman i don't think its a weight system as such (on the back of the mac), it looks more to me like a rig to carry airflow sensors to 'map' the air through the back of the car (possibly to corroborate CFD and tunnel data)

Herth (10:24) They probably want to confirm that on track conditions the ratio stays constant, as expected

Razgreez (10:25) my sentiments exactly wrighty

Gilles4Ever (10:25) some pics http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/gallery.php?ca...

Atreiu (10:25) ok

Razgreez (10:26) mcmerc were doing the same things last yr and i'm guestimizing its why there improved so much faster than other teams

moonman79 (10:27) ok i will take your word for it!!!

jcrb (10:27) wondering if alonso is still smiling

wrighty (10:28) thank you raz, moonman .....no thank you BTBB :lol:

Mastah (10:29) yes

moonman79 (10:30) dont know if anyone eles on here is in japan but every day they are showing the 1970's gp reruns!!!! awsome!!!! :clap:

SaintDean (10:30) morning all, i got a question: whats the fastest sert here? Basically what is a fast lap?

Richard T (10:31) 1.01,2 is pretty fast i suppose?

SchuOz (10:31) i got a question for you...what is a sert?

SaintDean (10:31) very funny perhaps a realistic lap time!

Richard T (10:31) but the track record (during a race) is a 1.22 by KR

jcrb (10:31) hm, they should take the lead off Button's car

Razgreez (10:32) there sre different records for different configs

Atreiu (10:32) Ban lunch breaks. Who needs them? And save money on the lunch.

AndyW35 (10:32) How about you mime your peom ? That would give it a twist !

Atreiu (10:33) borntobebrawn, no thanks. Post them in the paddock club. I`m sure people will appreciate it. This is not the place.

Mclaren4ever (10:33) RAIN!!!

Richard T (10:33) Thats what mosley said

Mclaren4ever (10:33) :lol:

Gilles4Ever (10:33) Barrichello did a 1:18 last year in testing

BRK (10:33) What rain?

VAR1016 (10:33) (C)rap:
Windsor and Anderson won't hit the track
USF's toast - there's no going back
Hurley's locked his wallet,
the balloon's gone up
No car in the works,
They've won the SNAFU cup!

AndyW35 (10:33) Yes, that is why I am asking you to mime it

Yatindra (10:33) wo0t

moonman79 (10:34) RAIN!!!! for sure!!!!!

Richard T (10:34) lets hear the poem

hsvone (10:34) troll! :wave:

zarooch (10:35) well with SL i just wanted to take advantage of the datagrid's col re-ordering and sorting so that i can have look at times a bit better, instead of looking for fastest.
but yea sorry guys looks like you people didn't like it. Anywya, there's always room for improvement

homercles (10:35) How much did that twiddly chicane that runined the last corner add to the Barca lap time?

hsvone (10:35) awful :down:

Richard T (10:35) "But now my pants are filled with Chicken Curry."

Say whaaat? xD

SaintDean (10:36) interesting wheel design

looks retro!

BRK (10:36) Wilde would be turning in his grave.

Gilles4Ever (10:36) they did 1:13 in 2006

Yatindra (10:36) loool at that poem

Mastah (10:36) great poem

hsvone (10:36) you're no sam hunt that's for sure! :lol:

AndyW35 (10:36) I filled the pants of Edwina Curry would be funny

Mandzipop (10:36) I was eating my breakfast

VAR1016 (10:36) Love the look of the special "nut"

Atreiu (10:36) 1?

moonman79 (10:36) how many mclaren team members dose it take to change a light bulb???

Buzz47 (10:37) Di Grassi on track... hopefully gonna do a longer run...

zarooch (10:37) a bit disappointed ... :well:

BRK (10:37) One to fix the blub and another to attach the special data collection aerodynamic device?

hsvone (10:37) i'd rather wring your neck.

Mandzipop (10:38) That nut looks like something out of Dr Who

Jay (10:38) @moonman79 - 15.... 1 to change it and 14 to analyse the data received from the pitot tubes around it?

moonman79 (10:39) 1 personelle to climb the stepped elevation device,
1 to hold the stepped elevation device.
another to change the light emitting bulb......

Mastah (10:39) :wave:

Mastah (10:39) :lol:

hsvone (10:39) must be the chicken curry.

Buzz47 (10:39) Di Grassi getting quicker...

Buzz47 (10:40) ...long way to go though...

Mandzipop (10:40) Whats up with the Virgin?

moonman79 (10:40) cant beat a bit of Ron speek!!!

Richard T (10:40) i wanna see some Jezza POOWEEERRR from Alonso

Rikhart (10:41) Holy crap, impressed by williams so far!

BRK (10:41) There was a Ronspeak translator somewhere on the interwebs actually.

BRK (10:41) Found it!

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_r...

Mandzipop (10:41) :lol:

moonman79 (10:41) class will hunt that one down :lol:

homercles (10:41) Do we know what caused the Ferrari to stop yet? Did one of Fernando's sandbags come loose?

zarooch (10:42) hulk: 1:23.281

BRK (10:43) When pissed,Ron would say: "Explicit reproductive act off,you rapidly inhale."

Richard T (10:43) hello, my name is Richard T and im quicker than lewis = felicitious greetings, my given moniker is Richard T and im longitudinously rapider than lewis

moonman79 (10:43) thats a classic!!!! :up:

Rikhart (10:43) I would dearly love williams and the cosworth to raid the first couple of races by a good margin

BRK (10:43) :lol:

moonman79 (10:44) for sure
..............

zarooch (10:44)

Burtinator (10:44) hello people!

Richard T (10:45) For Sure = for totally decided

FlashMaster (10:45) man I miss those F1 poems

BRK (10:45) di Grassi,Petrov and Fauzy setting the track on fire,at the moment.

Lord Snooty (10:46) @Rikhart; you and me both

moonman79 (10:46) For sure = deffinatly

Lord Snooty (10:46) @flash: i do believe you may be alone in missing the poems... speaking personally, i find the 'ignore' option a real boon these days

:up:

FlashMaster (10:46) @ClaireWilliams

We are hosting 150 of our partners here today & tomorrow

-> media laps party :clap:

Atreiu (10:46) definitely

Richard T (10:46) Not according to Ron :O

FlashMaster (10:47) it was a joke guys

AndyW35 (10:47) That Ron speak is good, if you type in "We all knew about the Ferrari documents" it comes out "None of us knew about the Ferrari document"

Lord Snooty (10:47) @flash: i was trying to think of something to say about hosting the gorgeous and pouting claire but good manners and breeding prevented me....

Buzz47 (10:47) Di grassi's times up and down like John Terry's shorts...

Lord Snooty (10:48)

moonman79 (10:48) @Atreiu!!!!! for sure :drunk:

Atreiu (10:48) How many laps has Button done?

Mclaren4ever (10:49) no team with updates so far?

Richard T (10:49) Why cant the teams use 2 cars? is it according to regulations?

Lord Snooty (10:49) I wonder what is in the corporate goodie bags in the Williams pic...

AndyW35 (10:49) Weber goes top

Mastah (10:49) richard - yes

Mandzipop (10:49) Button has done 24 laps

Rikhart (10:50) weird that webber time isnt on any of the sites

Atreiu (10:50) Money saving Richard.

Atreiu (10:51) Which I think is silly, by the way.

Jelinski619 (10:51) This is the last test isnt it? How exciting.

Herth (10:51) it is on the greek site

Richard T (10:52) Ah ok, must have missed that one...

zarooch (10:52) at the moment at 1:30.160 petrov is fastest on track :lol:

Mandzipop (10:52) The Ferrari garage is closed, sounds like they are having issues :rolleyes:

froggy22 (10:52) Red Bull come alive?

zarooch (10:53) when is the lunch time?

Herth (10:53) in an hour from now i believe

Atreiu (10:53) Closed, really? I`m surprised they didn`t put some cut cardboard boxes to try to block the view. hahaha

Buzz47 (10:53) @Mandzipop: Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch :cool:

Richard T (10:53) 1 pm local

Mandzipop (10:54) I'm only going by what it is saying on a french website.

Burtinator (10:54) Just a theory but Ferrari wins in Bahrain and Malaysia Webber dominance is Aus when the Red Bull really come alive and then great fight for title between Webber and Alonso...... looking at times over all tests and determination of all drivers on grid.......

Herth (10:54) Rosberg out on track

Richard T (10:55) Yeah, i think webber will be a strong title contender for sure

jcrb (10:55) to beat Vettel, Webber will have to get up really early

jcrb (10:55) it will be alonso all the way i think... with some fighting from Vettel and Schumi

Atreiu (10:55) I don't think Weber will beat Vettel.

DrChatNuff (10:55) hope so Flash, hope so :smoking:

SaintDean (10:56) i just launched a new forza motorsport 3 race team. Anyone like racing on xbox live?

Mastah (10:56) felipe 2010 wdc, believe :cool:

Burtinator (10:57) Schumi will only have race wins not a true title push from him this year at least maybe next year....... Vettel is so talented but so is Webber, and yes I'm top of leaderbored on Road America on Forza Motorsport x class......... have a look my tag is BurtiFW16

Atreiu (10:58) So, will we really get sub 3 second pit stops?

Richard T (10:58) Nice =) btw. stay away from Blanchimont!

FlashMaster (10:59) mastah why is felipe wearing glasses? I saw it in Jerez, never saw them before

Mastah (10:59) in jerez? are you sure?

FlashMaster (10:59) hopefully no problems caused by the accident

FlashMaster (10:59) thought so

Burtinator (11:00) Shades in Jerez?? y? twas raining.....

froggy22 (11:00) he wore glasses to a Real Madrid match that he was invited to

Mandzipop (11:00) Yeah he was wearing glasses, but from what I can gather he wore them before the accident.

FlashMaster (11:01) ah ok

FlashMaster (11:01) Webber is super fast

Mastah (11:01) i saw pic from real madrid match and he indeed had glasses, but on other pic i they looked like sunglasess - all in all he his sight is ok and that's the most important thing

Mastah (11:02) http://qik.com/video/5132597 hot stuff from morning

Burtinator (11:02) Webber has always been super fast you cant get p2 in a sodding Jag without being super fast especially at Malaysia!!! just never had the right car for the job.........

FlashMaster (11:03) yes but Vettel is faster

FlashMaster (11:04) his 3rd year now

Burtinator (11:04) single race maybe but over 19 races........ only time will tell, plus Vettel is hard on tyres and engines which wont do him any favors with re-fueling ban

SchuOz (11:04) Thanks Mastah, love seeing raw footage

PrettyBoy22 (11:05) hey everyone whats the topic convo :cool:

FlashMaster (11:05) for sure :lol:

Buzz47 (11:05) Testing, PrettyBoy :-)

FlashMaster (11:06) vettel is young and has a lot more room to improve, especially handling his tyres

zarooch (11:06) obviouslyy... :lol:

FlashMaster (11:06) raw speed is already better

Atreiu (11:07) How can anyone be hard on an engine nowadays? All you have to do is turn some nobs or press buttons and it'll automatically drop some revs, torque and save itself. :confused:

Burtinator (11:07) which is y unless he learns bloody quickly Hamilton has no hope at beating JB this year, he is miles too hard on tyres. JB is smoothest, almost as smooth as the proff. yeah, dont get me wrong man i like Vettel but this year I feel is Marks year

Burtinator (11:07) Vettel blew 2 engines in valencia last year dude

FlashMaster (11:07) jup

FlashMaster (11:07) "hard on engine" is a myth nothing more

jcrb (11:07) vettel is a fast-learner... he will get around the tyre problem quickly

Burtinator (11:08) I know it will be a rather pants car but I personally cant wait to see Bruno get out opn track in Bahrain....

PrettyBoy22 (11:08) if anyone can adapt though Burtinator, Lewis can...

zarooch (11:08) pffft... Burtinator: do you work at Renault? or have you studied RedBull's telemetry for Vettel?

FlashMaster (11:08) such a funny myth

FlashMaster (11:08) I bet Burtinator is the poem-dude with new account

Atreiu (11:08) Burtinator, don't tell that to Prost. He won a lot, but got beaten now and then. It's not all about being smooth of soft.

I hope I didn't open a can of worms.

zarooch (11:09) vettel hard on engines, my a**

FlashMaster (11:09) so many "registered feb 10" guys here, what a surprise

Atreiu (11:09) * smooth or soft

PrettyBoy22 (11:09) this pre-season has felt longer than any other i swear to god

Burtinator (11:09) just a lil comparison Atreiu

zarooch (11:09) ... goes back to work. :wave:

Burtinator (11:10) and btw no i dont work for Renault, just brain is full of F1 everything and nothing else

Mandzipop (11:10) :wave:

PrettyBoy22 (11:10) anyone done fantasy f1 yet?

BRK (11:11) That's because of the increased coverage this year.

Atreiu (11:11) I've never done any fantasy sport. Doesn't sound the least fun.

jonpollak (11:11) G'Day from Sydney Australia
Jp checks in to see what you lot are up to.. :wave:

FlashMaster (11:11) 1:22.243 webber

PrettyBoy22 (11:11) it's not amazing Atreiu true, something to do though ain't it

Burtinator (11:12) I think the beeb should film it and let us watch it on red button and website tbh wud be awesome

wrighty (11:12) good morning jon

SchuOz (11:12) Hey Jon, Sydney here also...where abouts in Syd?

jonpollak (11:12) Wrighty :wave:

Mandzipop (11:13) Morning

Mastah (11:13) and something about "seb can't overtake" - malaysia 4 (lewis, nick, kimi, nelson), china 1 (jenson), belgium 1 (nico), italy 1 (fred), brazil 3 (jaime, romain, rubens)

jonpollak (11:13) The Rocks..Shangi-La hotel

SchuOz (11:13) Very nice indeed

wrighty (11:13) lol burtinator, the bbc get enough flak for sending crews to the olympics and glastonbury etc etc, i cant see the general licence-paying public being happy with a couple of freight containers full of gear being shipped abroad for F1 testing :lol:

Herth (11:13) 1:22:017 for Mark

wrighty (11:13) haha schuOZ u notice we never call him 'holiday-inn-jon'? :lol:

jonpollak (11:14) Or they couls give me a Sony Handy-cam and I could send them better vid than they EVER get

FlashMaster (11:14) mastah dont argue with aussie MW fans, they only have him

Richard T (11:14) :drunk:

jonpollak (11:14) Yeah well...My life leads cursed and charmed

Burtinator (11:15) haha true wrighty..... cant argue with Webber fans anyway he is amazing.....

homercles (11:15) Isn't it night time in Sydney?

FlashMaster (11:15) bad luck :rolleyes:

jonpollak (11:15) Yes Homercles 10:15pm

Mastah (11:15) "in mark we trust" :cat:

kar (11:15) how many laps has alonso done?

SchuOz (11:15) yup....10:15pm in Sydney

hsvone (11:15) yep homer and it's friday here.

Buzz47 (11:15) I'd like to see Webber win the WDC. He's a good bloke.

zarooch (11:15) so in Alonso terms :cat:

, has the red bull shown its hand/cards?

Atreiu (11:15) I wonder if it's true that Neweys cars are so developed they also suffer the most in turbulence.

anbeck (11:15) 11

Atreiu (11:16) 11 - his car stopped and he hasn't gone out again

IIRC

KateLM (11:16) 11 was it?

jonpollak (11:16) Looks like the Webbenator is giving that Bull the Biz

SchuOz (11:16) Short runs for Mark so far

jonpollak (11:16) so kar...are you ALO or MAS this year?

anbeck (11:16) seems it wasn't just an empty tank for Ferrari then

jonpollak (11:16) oh wait...I forgot...it's all about the paint job

FlashMaster (11:16) Webber back to the pits after another short stint - an impressive 1m22.243 followed by the 1m22.017s

SonnyViceR (11:17) awesomeness... racing season is starting again... WTCC season opener next week, F1 week after that and then it's time for Sebring 12 hours

wrighty (11:17) :lol:

kar (11:17) don't care which one wins
just as long as one of them does :-)

Burtinator (11:17) tomorrow we see Nando put the horse through its paces not today.

kar (11:17) both

FlashMaster (11:17) TweetDeck FTW :cool:

kar (11:17) and if schumacher is ahead of both of them, i will sleep easy as well :-)

kar (11:17) and if he's not, then as long as he's half a minute up the road from rosberg, i'll also sleep well :-)

BRK (11:17) Whoever's winning then. Man U.

Burtinator (11:18) HA no chance Schumi!! haha u make me laugh!!!

BRK (11:18) Are those quali sims from the Bulls?

FlashMaster (11:18) heavy fuel short stints I guess

jonpollak (11:18) I hate MoanCheater United

anbeck (11:18) I cannot image WTCC survive for long, the same fate other touring car world championships suffered

FlashMaster (11:18) Q2,Q3 times were a lot better

kar (11:18) i was looking at the test times from 2009, fastest lap time was a 1:19

BRK (11:19) I would,too,if I was that into the Premiership.

kar (11:19) q2 was a 1:20

FlashMaster (11:19) 1:19.9 RB @Q2

Zod100 (11:19) We all hate manu but we all love Liverpoofl FC. YNWA :clap:

Burtinator (11:19) yeah I agree flash, should get at least 1m 20s in quali mayb 18 if u really push...

jonpollak (11:19) I could imagine F1 getting Ferrari to moan to Charlie that they aren't in the lead and he HAS TO add another 15 laps until they are in the lead THEN throw the checkers

zarooch (11:19) now that raikkonen is no more in f1 :cry:

, i'm supporting Vettel, Kubica and Koba :clap:

PrettyBoy22 (11:19) Arsenal all the way :blush:

kar (11:20) so the times are a ways off

Scotracer (11:20) kar, I thought Rooooobens managed a 1:18 last year?

kar (11:20) jon: jean todt is president now, it wont happen

homercles (11:20) They have narrower front tyres this year don't they so they probably won't be as fast as last year?

kar (11:20) http://www.autosport.com/f1/testing/

kar (11:20) 2009 Qualifying 2: Rubens Barrichello (Brawn-Mercedes) 1:20.584
2009 testing: Rubens Barrichello (Brawn-Mercedes) 1:19.926

wrighty (11:20) haha jon i can't, the ferraris are still a thirsty beast arent they?

jonpollak (11:21) D'oh...
I must say he semms suspiciously even handed ATM

Scotracer (11:21) Thanks, Kar.

Burtinator (11:21) thirsty in the hands of felipe yes. not sure when nandos comsumption is actually..... hmmmm made me think now!!!

kar (11:21) wrighty: not if all their 'reliability' changes have helped matters

FlashMaster (11:21) http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/ergeb...

Q2: R. Barrichello Brawn 1:19.954

kar (11:21) jon: todt is very, proper. he is loyal to a fault to his employer. and his employer is not ferrari any more so they wont get any favours. arguably less so than they enjoyed with mosley

Mclaren4ever (11:22) Last year was funny, Button went out and after some 6 laps he was in the Â´21

kar (11:22) there's only one person for who todt is not objective and that's michael :-)

homercles (11:22) ..... and the cars are 15kg heavier

kar (11:22) god help us if michael does something naughty this year, the internets will melt

AndyW35 (11:22) He does something naughty every year doesn't he?

FlashMaster (11:23) :lol:

FlashMaster (11:23) Ham vs Michael ... oh dear

Scotracer (11:23) Kar: http://newsonf1.net/forum/viewtopic.php?...

I knew I was right!

Burtinator (11:23) what u mean if?? more like when! Schumi will be slaughterd so he will be cheating again by Aus!!

PrettyBoy22 (11:23) he didn't in 2007 :drunk:

AndyW35 (11:23) He might ruffle Nico's hair on the podium and send Nico into shock, for instance.

Scotracer (11:23) Oh we have another pretend-newbie troll here. Yay.

Gilles4Ever (11:23) 1. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:18.926 110

FlashMaster (11:23) blabla Burti

Gilles4Ever (11:23) that was last day last year

jonpollak (11:23) I am rather looking forward to the ethically chalenged driver forcing the issue....most likely with Hammy but were it a Ferrari?... :eek:

FlashMaster (11:24) you forgot your "for sure"

Mastah (11:24) 1m21.487

wrighty (11:24) true kar (re: the 'reliability changes')......thats well within the spirit of the regulations isnt it :lol:

AndyW35 (11:24) Mark, Michael, Fernando and Lewis all going into turn 1 .. great stuff.

Burtinator (11:24) Hulkenburg is doin a Kimi out there!!!!

kar (11:24) wrighty: all the other teams have to agree to it, so yeah

jonpollak (11:24) Hello Gilles4 :wave:

Buzz47 (11:25) Go Di Grassi!

FlashMaster (11:25) I hope for RAIN during Moncao GP. awww 1997 :love:

PrettyBoy22 (11:25) Monaco 97- Rubens. Awesome

jonpollak (11:25) What eating ice cream and pushing kids over?

wrighty (11:25) if so then fair do's kar, i believed it was between the applicant and the FIA tbh

Burtinator (11:25) sod 1997 we want a repeat of 1984 with Senna dominating!!!

AndyW35 (11:25) This live forum might melt too during some races if they take the boxing gloves off. Remember Lewis and Kimi at Spa, people almost went hysterical on here.

Burtinator (11:26) no not pushing kids over! setting quick lap the slow lap the quick again! conserves tyres ya see.....

FlashMaster (11:26) 1997 was awesome and he even spun lolz. destroyed the whole field. they looked like amateurs

jonpollak (11:26) Yeah Andy..We were there.
Lewis was AWESOME

embassie (11:26) yeah liverpool my city

PrettyBoy22 (11:26) every forum melted after Spa

Mandzipop (11:27) Virgin only just over a second slower than a Ferrari :eek:

kar (11:27) alonso has only done 11 laps

wrighty (11:27) lol prettyboy but this is the one that matters

BRK (11:27) Well,at least this year with Todt at the helm there won't be as many worries.

Burtinator (11:27) so glad nazi max is out! wud rather see Ari there thou

kar (11:28) todt doesn't like the limelight, which makes him different from mosley in many ways

jonpollak (11:28) OK next person to use the in fashionAmerican adjective of AWSOME...has to work for USF1

kar (11:28) but at the same time he is a very strong figure so it will be interesting to see how he handles the first crisis that comes his way

PrettyBoy22 (11:28) i wish USF1 would just chuck in the towel already

kar (11:28) jon: i blame barney

Burtinator (11:28) work? USF1? there out right? haha should be! waste of time F1 they should be called......

kar (11:28) and channel 5 for putting him on the air

BRK (11:29)

jonpollak (11:29) SO YOU GET MY IRONY THEN...

Scotracer (11:29) It's nearly 18 months since Spa '08. That is ridiculous.

AndyW35 (11:29) My dogs called Barney.

BRK (11:29) More importantly,I don't think he appreciated Ferrari sacking Kimi for Alonso.

Burtinator (11:29) indeed

Mandzipop (11:29) Go Virgin

kar (11:29) ari vatanen would have been a disaster

Buzz47 (11:29) Di Grassi almost in the 26s...

AndyW35 (11:29) Have to agree with Kar, Todt does have mettle.

jonpollak (11:30) My wood shop teacher was called Barney

wrighty (11:30) lol mandzipop is that a cheer or a lifestyle choice? :lol:

Scotracer (11:30) I once met a dinosaur called Barney

AndyW35 (11:30) What's Mrs Rubble's husband called in the Flintstones?

Burtinator (11:30) was always gonna be close between them imo.. but Ari is a driver.......

FlashMaster (11:31) Vettel's odds went down this morning hah. bet365 guys here?

jonpollak (11:31) Screw Branson and his glory seeking good times money

kar (11:31) i think the most telling thing about Todt's abilities as a manager, is to look how unhinged montezemelo has been since he's gone.

jonpollak (11:31) BETTY

kar (11:31) montezemelo is like a newly divorced husband freed of the shackles of a stern house wife

Mandzipop (11:31) Cheer :clap:

wrighty (11:31) ah just checking

jonpollak (11:32) Yes..Ferrari back to the 80's

jonathanknevels (11:32) whats up with alonso ???

Razgreez (11:32) luca was unhinged already while todt was still there

kar (11:32) the irony is montezemelo brought in the anglo-franco-german axis to ferrari to stop that nonsense

AndyW35 (11:32) Todt wouldn't have diven a Ferrari into the gravel trap either, what with his WRC experience.

Burtinator (11:32) 80s ferrari!

like sound of it, only with the speed of early 00's pls lol

kar (11:32) raz: indeed, but Todt ensured montzemelo stayed far away from the team. he shielded them from that sort of meddling

PrettyBoy22 (11:34) it amazes me that Luca wanted Kimi over Alonso in the first place

Scotracer (11:35) It's amazing Luca wanted Kimi over Schumi too.

Burtinator (11:35) cos Nando was a macca driver after 2005 season.......

PrettyBoy22 (11:35) Ferrari first approached Kimi in 2005

kar (11:35) um, todt wanted kimi > nando not monte

kar (11:35) ohoh

Zod100 (11:35) Kimi and Alonso in the Ferrari would have been ideal

AndyW35 (11:35) Sorry, I might have missed it, but what is wrong with Alonso's Ferrari, does anyone know?

Mandzipop (11:36) And Todt and Alonso weren't exactly bussom buddies eitheer

KateLM (11:36) it was good for a while...

FlashMaster (11:36) Di Grassi spun at Turn 9 and hit the tyre wall backwards. Big damage to the back of the car

jonpollak (11:36) RED FLAG...

Time for a beer...
I think the Glenmore or Australian hotels for a quick one then back here...

Mandzipop (11:36) Probably the Virgin

FlashMaster (11:36) :eek:

FlashMaster (11:36) Red flag coming up - someone is off the track at Turn 9

BRK (11:36) Again..

kar (11:36) andy: the car stopped after 10 laps and got towed back to the pits, it's a new chassis

Burtinator (11:36) Todt was scared Kimi wud beat Schumi so he took on Massa instead thats why!!

hsvone (11:36) the virgin is 'broken'

krapmeister (11:36) I hope his hymen is still intact...

jonpollak (11:36) BACK IN A FEW RACE FANS :wave:

AndyW35 (11:36) ta kar. :up:

Burtinator (11:36) end of day 4 Virgin then.....

PrettyBoy22 (11:36) Virgins don't like staying on the track

homercles (11:36) Is turn 9 the fast right onto the back straight?

kar (11:37) oh dear virgin fail

FlashMaster (11:37) @FI

Well...he was until the red flag came out at turn 9 - di Grassi in the VIrgin just had a big impact with the tyre barriers

hsvone (11:37) :lol:

jonpollak (11:37) Screw Virgin

BRK (11:37) So first crash this winter,then?

Buzz47 (11:37) Awwwwww :-(

PrettyBoy22 (11:37) how many laps has Di Grassi done today?

FlashMaster (11:37) @Noble

Di Grassi is out of the car and looks okay. He's inspecting the damage

BRK (11:37) Damn,I thought the Hulk would get there first,.

kar (11:37) lunch time in 20 minutes, doubt we'll see the ferrari until after then

jonpollak (11:37) I just can't help myself can I?

HoldenRT (11:37) 30 laps

kar (11:38) and virgin are probably out of parts so that's the test over for them

FlashMaster (11:38) Hulk didnt crash all testing this year :>

jonpollak (11:38) That's why I am going for a pint kar

BRK (11:38) I know,he'll make up for it when the season begins.

Jambo (11:38) Hey isn't turn 9 the fast right hander onto the back straight?

jonpollak (11:38) anyone want to join me?...my round :clap:

PrettyBoy22 (11:38) the spare part thing is ridiculous

PrettyBoy22 (11:38) but if either of the Brawns would of shunted in Oz last year they would of been screwed, they only had 1 front wing each for the whole weekend

Jambo (11:38) Also hello

wrighty (11:38) *grabs keys* there in a sec jon

Zod100 (11:38) Aren't the teams using two cars each for this test?

Jambo (11:39) Hey Andy

Jambo (11:39) JD and coke JP?

AndyW35 (11:39) Are Mercedes showing the new diffuser and front wing or was that just wishful thinking by fans of the team?

jonpollak (11:39) Glenmore it is

FlashMaster (11:39) di Grassi is #fail , thats all

AndyW35 (11:39) Hi Jambo

Burtinator (11:39) Yes Jambo

wrighty (11:39) no zod, 1 car each only

Jambo (11:39) And Wrighty!

Zod100 (11:39) So if they crash one, they can use the second car?

wrighty (11:39) mornin' jambo :wave:

homercles (11:39) Do they have pints in Oz or are they 500ml?

plastik2k9 (11:39) no just one

Scotracer (11:39) Jambo: Yes and Hello.

FlashMaster (11:39) AndyW35 read the Merc thread before posting such crap

jonpollak (11:39) From Newcastle Wrighty?

BRK (11:39) Could fire up rFactor,been a while.

Zod100 (11:39) Oh, ok

wrighty (11:39) lol jp i agree it may be slightly flat by the time i get there......

krapmeister (11:40) Pints, Schooners, midis/pots - take your pick

kar (11:40) they have 'pints' in some places

kar (11:40) but mostly australian pubs have 'metric' pints

Burtinator (11:40) sod rfactor!! GTR2!!!

Jambo (11:40) Thought thats where it was, reckon the virgin will be quite broke up then

froggy22 (11:40) is turn 9 "Campsa"? if so thats where Heikki had his huge crash couple years ago

Jambo (11:40) Yeah thats the one Campsa

PrettyBoy22 (11:40) gotta go people, back later. be good xx

jonpollak (11:40) It's on the bar now Jambo
and don't insult our dear Wrighty

FlashMaster (11:41) metric pints = litres?

Burtinator (11:41) where Kovy had big crash last yr..... or was it 08??

Jambo (11:41) Sweet, I need a break from this assignment

kar (11:41) a bit like a continental beer glass

FlashMaster (11:41) ah ok

kar (11:41) metric pint = just about 500ml

Mandzipop (11:41) Ouch

Burtinator (11:41) half pint for price of pint then

kar (11:41) ~500mls of sparking ale from dr cooper will keep you as rosy as 1 litre of carling

homercles (11:42) metric pint = 500ml compared to pint pint = 568ml

jonpollak (11:42) You got that right burt

nish2280 (11:42) Virgins just dont know how to do it.

jonpollak (11:42) ok now I am really going to the pub...
:wave:

Burtinator (11:43) anyone got Forza Motorsport 3? with xbox live??

Jambo (11:43) Have fun

kar (11:43) it depends where you go though, in adelaide for example, the earl of aberdeen (or whatever it 'sc alled now) does uk pint glasses

wrighty (11:43) enjoy jon

best wishes m8 :wave:

Burtinator (11:43) bye bye Jon! have 1 for me m8!!

kar (11:43) coopers ale house last time i was back

krapmeister (11:43) Carling :down:

FlashMaster (11:43) bye jp

Atreiu (11:43) Spekaing of which, I had a Guiness last saturday and thought it was, by far, the worse beer I had ever had. Talk about piss water.

Razgreez (11:43) not forza no, rather shift than forza

krapmeister (11:44) Kar: Little Creatures is a good drop :up:

nish2280 (11:44) shift sucks! GT5 ftw

FlashMaster (11:44) I expect lots of german beer this weekend :lol:

Exams are over

Burtinator (11:44) was it english brew or dublin? cos dublin is loverly! but eng is kak

FlashMaster (11:44) and I can watch all testing and olympia lol

Atreiu (11:44) Dublin, IIRC.

froggy22 (11:44) Forza rules!

krapmeister (11:45) Guinness :love:

kar (11:45) mmmm ich haette gerne ein Helles von Traunstein

Burtinator (11:45) Froggy!!! fancy a few races??

FlashMaster (11:45) German beer and football this weekend

AndyW35 (11:45) FlashMaster, I was asking a simple question, I have not been reading the threads, I am on here.

Shut up or f uck off, but don't be such an ignorant c unt on here. Thanks.

FlashMaster (11:45) Traunstein?

Razgreez (11:45) rules, sucks... so juvenile..

zooropa (11:45) todt is mosleys personal puppet, really sad how that all happened

Scotracer (11:45) We go three minutes without a green flag and we're talking about beer, video games and other sports. Short attention span or what

Buttoneer (11:46) Di Grassi seems more like a liability at the moment. Have to wonder whether a more experienced head is needed in the driving seat.

Burtinator (11:46) sod beer bring out the JD

kar (11:46) yeah hofbrau traunstein do a lovely helles, it's the best 'lager' beer i've ever had

FlashMaster (11:46) lol then dont and silly questions

Mandzipop (11:46) Green flag

BRK (11:46) Green!

nish2280 (11:46) :well:

nish2280 (11:46) If we had a short attention span we wouldnt watch f1 :

FlashMaster (11:46) nobody expected new parts on day 1

Burtinator (11:47) haha true that Nish!!!

homercles (11:47) Can't have been too big a shunt then?

BRK (11:47) That's cruel,nish2280.

Mandzipop (11:47) Looks like Alonso is coming back out. :clap:

Razgreez (11:47) at the moment we arent watching f1 we're reading it

AndyW35 (11:47) It's not silly, this is where people are seeing pictures of the car, so can tell me yes or no.

BRK (11:47) F1 isn't as boring as some other sports are.

FlashMaster (11:47) reading and speculating

Burtinator (11:48) I take it no one wants a race on Forza during lunch break then??

FlashMaster (11:48) http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/bilde... 100% old package

zooropa (11:48) alonso was off track 3 hours, this day has been ruined for them already.

AndyW35 (11:48) Cheers, I take back my fruity language

Scotracer (11:49) More concerning than the lack of new parts on the Merc is the guy on the left's face.

Mastah (11:49) internet drama :clap:

FlashMaster (11:49) ok f uck off too :lol:

AndyW35 (11:50) touche ! :lol:

AndyW35 (11:50) It's all :love:

again ....

BRK (11:50) Nice happy bunch,like Brawn.

AndyW35 (11:50) Just like Cheryl and Ashley ....

Mandzipop (11:50) :lol:

Burtinator (11:50) :smoking:

i can keep cool cos I know all u Schumi and Hamilton fans will be disappointed when Nando dominates this champ.........

Razgreez (11:51) was there ever an f1 car with an air brake? (too lazy to google)

Scotracer (11:51) Best looking car of 2010?

Scotracer (11:51) Well it's not been allowed in the modern era, Raz: No moveable aerodynamic pieces.

Jambo (11:51) Williams FW32!

sirsims (11:51) lotus by far

Scotracer (11:52) mmk, I was just giving you what little I know :lol:

Scotracer (11:52) I think the Fezza is the best looker

Razgreez (11:52) i know that, which is why i said ever

AndyW35 (11:52) Jambo, apparently John McGuinness is at the Torro Rosso garage today.

Razgreez (11:52) and technically the cars are allowed to move the front wing 3 degrees but nobody's using it anyway

Burtinator (11:53) could be wrong but I doubt it tbh

Burtinator (11:53) Air brake?? I dont think so mate

Jambo (11:53) McPint!

I bet they must think he is mental

Razgreez (11:53) like who?

Jambo (11:53) Johns a lovely fella

Scotracer (11:53) Actually, many of the teams are using the moveable front wing flaps.

FlashMaster (11:53) :love:

Scotracer (11:53) I know Brawn used it last year for a fact (from radio transmissions during race)

FlashMaster (11:53) Rosberg 1:22.670

Scotracer (11:54) I think Toyota did too (I saw a crashed front wing and you could see the mechanism)

AndyW35 (11:54) He is mental Jambo. Not bad at riding a bike either.

Razgreez (11:54) cool, i know i heard alonso talking about it saying he never presses the button

anbeck (11:54) the Mercedes Le Mans cars in the 50s experimented with air brakes, don't think F1 has, though

Jambo (11:54) Aye he is handy on two wheels

Jambo (11:55) And yes they are all mental to be fair, but you have to love them!

Burtinator (11:55) with the moveable wing if its unlimited use u cud really get ya lap times down with gr8 concentration.....

Scotracer (11:56) Yeah you'd have time left over after the race to fix your spelling.

SantiagoVR (11:56) any pictures of the virgin after the crash

cristianuk (11:56) :wave:

hello

Jambo (11:56) Hah true, that was horrible to read!

Burtinator (11:56) indeed

AndyW35 (11:56) http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbzz9_m...

AndyW35 (11:57) yes indeed

Jambo (11:57) Good old DJ RIP big man

Jambo (11:57) He was a lovely big fella too

cristianuk (11:58) what happend to alonso

Jambo (11:58) Being a ballymoney man there is only one for me, well maybe 2, The Dunlop brothers :clap:

Scotracer (11:58) It's crazy that they're still allowed to run the TT

BRK (11:58) Rossie out again.

AndyW35 (11:58) Apparently twisting the throttle is a way of getting rid of excess aggression. I was told this by a psychiatrist after breaking my back on the old GPX600

Burtinator (11:59) the car got cut into half by a giant chainsaw so nando had 2 be towed back 2 pits...... lol u wish!

cristianuk (11:59) lol

Jambo (11:59) The TT is a lot safer than the racing back home though, when you see 20 bikes piling down the flying kilo at dundrod at about 190mph thats when it gets scary

Burtinator (12:00) idk what happened 2 the ferrari peronally I just know it was early mate

Mandzipop (12:01) lunch

Scotracer (12:01) Go Merc :clap:

Burtinator (12:02) Webber 1.1s quicker than anyone!! have that Hamilton!!! MW for Championship!!!!

Atreiu (12:03) Hamilton isn't even there Burtinator. Take a chill pill.

And it's only testing.

Jambo (12:03) They are only 3/4 seconds off a proper fast lap still

Razgreez (12:03) a supposed fast lap

Burtinator (12:04) I know he is not running but he is not 3 seconds quicker than JB!!

Jambo (12:04) 3 or 4, not three quarters

Scotracer (12:04) Burtinator, we're still 3 seconds off the fastest test time from last year. You think that's their true pace? :lol:

BRK (12:05) 57 laps for both Webber and Rosberg.

Razgreez (12:06) wheel-covers, worth 2 secs a lap

Burtinator (12:06) Could be you never know.... haha! nah I dont think we will see true pace of drivers untill their second day of running..

Burtinator (12:07) with narrower fronts costing a second a lap there you go there is your 3 seconds

Razgreez (12:08) i applaud your skills of induction Burti :clap:

froggy22 (12:08) Lunch?

Burtinator (12:09) hehe, right time 2 Forza for an hour or so! If you wanna join my tag is BurtiFW16 talk to you all later!

wrighty (12:09) dont mind if i do froggy, what you making?

Jambo (12:09)

Jambo (12:10) Skills of induction?

He can suck in lots of air?

Burtinator (12:10) :wave:

plastik2k9 (12:11) "Speculation suggests Di Grassi lost his rear wing while braking for turn 9"

That's quite a serious failure if true

froggy22 (12:12) @wrighty, scrambled Egg and bacon. but you'll have to bring the bacon

Ravindra Nagpurkar (12:12) and what is the "basis" for this "theory"

Scotracer (12:12) http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47...

He looks about 40!

Scotracer (12:13) Maybe Anthony is trying to sneak a go of the Mclaren.

Scotracer (12:13) We haven't had rear wing failures in a few years. They're always fun.

froggy22 (12:13) lol, i thought that when i saw that picture, he's aged ove winter

wrighty (12:13) lmao froggy enjoy your scrambled eggs and fresh air then :lol:

AndyW35 (12:13) He looks like Paul Ince there.

Rikhart (12:13) ouch hamilton looks... weird :eek:

Atreiu (12:13) This organized lunch break sucks.

froggy22 (12:14) fresh air tastes good....

wrighty (12:15) ok peeps enjoy your lunch (or their lunch, rather), i'll cyas in a bit :wave:

Kabir92 (12:15) whooo go webber :clap:

Mandzipop (12:16) I'm going for the healthy option today. Pot Noodle.

Ravindra Nagpurkar (12:19) So ...has Ferrari (LDM) already issued a press release as to how the new teams, the FIA, Prez.Obama and global warming are responsible for its lost tim of testing !!! or is there a more mundane reason

Yatindra (12:24) lol ravi

jonpollak (12:37) Boy that beer is expensive

jonpollak (12:38) Ravinda... :lol:

Jambo (12:39) VirginRacing

Warm and sunny in BCN. Install laps for Lucas highlighted a couple of issues, now sorted. Andy Soucek keeping a close eye on the action

Virgin a bit behind the times I see

Razgreez (12:39) the hour is taking hours

jonpollak (12:43) BTBB :wave:

pime (12:44) uuhm 15min waiting...

jonpollak (12:45) All good here in Sydney..(after a few bruski's)

That BBC page is a good source for you twitteratti

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorspo...

Jambo (12:46) Twitter is very useful, both for F1 and my own field

jonpollak (12:46) Here or at the track?

stevvy1986 (12:47) Can't they just do what they did at Jerez, and have lunch whenever they want, and if others want to keep running, let them, as this 1hr is dragging

RoutariEnjinu (12:47) Celebrity stalking?

RoutariEnjinu (12:47) shalabriteez

Jambo (12:47) Programming :P

Jambo (12:47) And game design

jonpollak (12:48) Perfect weather

jonpollak (12:48) 25 and still with a warm glow

Lord Snooty (12:48) Sydney?

jonpollak (12:49) Only prob there is I live in Reigate...
That's Engerland...

D'oh

Lord Snooty (12:49) Gunna miss melbourn this year

:cry:

Lord Snooty (12:49) :cry:

Jambo (12:49) Hey Snooty

jcrb (12:50) 1-4 were running very low fuel

jonpollak (12:50) I work on the road..

wrighty (12:50) well if that was my dinner i've had it

hi all

Mandzipop (12:50) Is it me or is this hour dragging?

jonpollak (12:50) pork scratchings again Wrighty?

Mandzipop (12:52) Ferrari's problems were due to an electronic issue.

Lord Snooty (12:52) @jambo :wave:

wrighty (12:52) lol jp if only it were that healthy

cheese savoury sarnie and crisps.....

Lord Snooty (12:52) Seems like Claire over at Williams has spotted a bit of helmet polishing going on during the lunch break...

http://twitpic.com/158qxj

Razgreez (12:52) electronic issue? throttle stuck open? recall! recall!!

wrighty (12:53) haha snooty, does that post require a SFW/NSFW rating before i look? :lol:

RoutariEnjinu (12:54) I used to think that stood for Not Suitable For W***ing and often disagreed

Lord Snooty (12:54)

wrighty (12:55) omg routari thanks for sharing :lol:

jonpollak (12:55) Claire...turn the camera vertical next time

Jambo (12:55) Is it going to be something to do with crackers and stirling moss?

RoutariEnjinu (12:56) Formula 1
It's like Tron

(futuristic)

RoutariEnjinu (12:56) That's my Poem

Jambo (12:58) Am ok ta

RoutariEnjinu (12:58) I want a real life machine gun

jcrb (12:58) I want restart

Mandzipop (12:59) Nah, I'm wanting to concentrate only on the testing. I might be a woman but I cant concentrate on 2 things at the same time.

Mastah (12:59) InsideFerrari

A difficult start of the testing session: Alonso lost some precious track time due to an electronic issue. He was back on track before lunch

jonpollak (13:00) You asked for it...

Got to be a winner trophy winner
Get to hold your head up high up
Number one

Sweaty work
And lucky breaks
And blood and tears is all it takes
To be a winner
People cheer
And people gasp
People want your autograph
When you're a winner

Run run run run
Let's see you run
We'll be betting by the starting gun
Shall we shower you with flowers
Or shall we shun ya
When your race is run?

Mandzipop (13:01) Where's the green flag? Its turned 1pm. :mad:

jonpollak (13:01) very appropriate for Atlas

jonpollak (13:01) nah...that's Joni

The Big Guns (13:01) who is talking about guns?

RoutariEnjinu (13:01) With swearing and offensive content

RoutariEnjinu (13:02) Do an F1 gangster rap song

The Big Guns (13:02) not this crap again!

jonpollak (13:02) gangster rap is crap..
there ya go

nish2280 (13:03) omg im watching a torturous performance on american idol >.

The Big Guns (13:03) hehe.

i fixed these niggling "issues" at my end!

Mandzipop (13:04) green flag :clap:

The Big Guns (13:05) My head hurts and i want to sleep in

nish2280 (13:05) is the suspension broken on the virgin?

wrighty (13:05) electronic issue for alonso eh? that'll be the McLaren-supplied ECU getting a flaming in the Ferrari thread in RC then :lol:

stevvy1986 (13:05) Green flag, hurray! About time too!

VAR1016 (13:06) Nish: please don't - you'll wake up that twerp from last week!

wrighty (13:06) looks pretty damn crooked on the photo nish

Calorus (13:07) Hallo, chaps!

jonpollak (13:07) Calorus :wave:

cristianuk (13:09) :wave:

Calorus (13:09) That's what I call a welcome, I thank you all!

nish2280 (13:09) VAR, should i even ask?

Mandzipop (13:10) :wave:

wrighty (13:10) lol calorus i was gonna say hi too but apparently i'm too late :wave:

jonpollak (13:10) lets hope not

nish2280 (13:10) do we really need to read these poems?

Calorus (13:10) I assure you each hello is as warmly appreciated as the one before!

jonpollak (13:11) oi vey

jonpollak (13:11) no...the Joni ones are enough and dont need posting here

Calorus (13:12) Hang on what poems, what have I missed?

jonpollak (13:12) dont start..Fred is on track

nish2280 (13:12) please calorus, you dont need to know

wrighty (13:12) lol BTBB you post up your 'fan base' and we'll collate the number of people who stick you on ignore, that should show us 'which way the winds a'blowin' :lol:

Calorus (13:12) I'll trust your words Nish...

Calorus (13:13) b2bb, No I've not.

Calorus (13:13) I'm searching th convo history, though.

concretepump74 (13:14) Wotcha peeps, i'm a bit late :wave:

jonpollak (13:14) Here are the cliff notes...
LALALALALA i HAVE SOILED MY PANTS

Calorus (13:14) [Sorry guys] Yes b2bb, I do, curiosity has the better of me.

Mandzipop (13:14) :wave:

Jambo (13:14) Oh its not Sterling btw, its Stirling

nish2280 (13:14) Q.Q the korean guy on american idol is getting owned...

concretepump74 (13:15) Have you got some more btbb?

Razgreez (13:15) is that time showing buttons fastest time or only his fastest time after his transponder started working again?

concretepump74 (13:15) :lol:

nish2280 (13:16)

cristianuk (13:16) http://www.msfree.gr/includes/livelaps.p... hes lap times today

nish2280 (13:17) I've been to the paddock club in singapore, it was only on friday though

gregtheman (13:17) worried a lil bit about mclaren

wrighty (13:17) lmao BTBB not commenting.....the PC rules of entry are clearly stated in their sub-heading on the board indes

gregtheman (13:17) appear to be all slow

cristianuk (13:17) no they are not

gregtheman (13:18) what makes you think that

wrighty (13:18) sry cristian was that to me or greg?

cristianuk (13:18) greg :clap:

Razgreez (13:19) :down:

nish2280 (13:19) :clap:

cristianuk (13:19) :wave:

gregtheman (13:19) what makes you think that @ cristianuk

cristianuk (13:19) :mad:

i can feel it

jonathanknevels (13:20) i was expecting ferrari in front

gregtheman (13:20) go born2bebrawn!

BRK (13:21) Bcak.

Mastah (13:21) jules on pole in bahrain by 0.004 seconds :clap:

top 4 in 0.049 :eek:

wrighty (13:21) jp you still here sir?

nish2280 (13:21) my keyboard is too dirty

gregtheman (13:21) no.. carry on

Mandzipop (13:23) 1:46.082 from Alonso. I've heard of sandbagging but that is ridiculous.

nish2280 (13:23) those force india boys look like orange and green stormtroopers

BRK (13:24) Was about to comment on that.

BRK (13:24) Nice looking masks a la Jason.

Zod100 (13:25) nish2280 agreed :lol:

Mandzipop (13:27) According to one website, Ferrari might be doing some quali sims this afternoon. :love:

BRK (13:27) Anybody spotted Fat Annoying B*stard lately? I sort of miss that thread.

irish_sean69 (13:27) aint herd anything about Mac merc in a while anybody herd anything

BRK (13:27) Good while it lasted.

Scotracer (13:28) Fat Annoying Btard is probably at USF1 and that's why they can't get their car ready.

irish_sean69 (13:30) no its beacuse they are american fat and lazy :clap:

AndyW35 (13:31) I was Fat annoying B'stard earlier after completely losing it with Flashmaster, my apologies to everyone again including Flash. :blush:

What is up with me?

Razgreez (13:31) not all americans are fat and lazy... just most according to the latest government approved statistics

Calorus (13:33) HA!

BRK (13:33) That's a nasty thing to say about FAB,that blob is actually a good luck charm.

Gilles4Ever (13:33) easy on the national stereotyping please

Calorus (13:34) We don't mean, it - we know that some Americans are extremely fit indeed - after all there are countries in the Middle East just begging to be invaded, and the chubbies can't do that...

wrighty (13:35) PST andy, pre-season tension m8

(dont worry, we arent holding it against you......yet.....if it happens again we'll not let it lie :lol:

)

irish_sean69 (13:35) just going on statistcs so not really stereotyping. i am not saying that there are not averaged sized people across the pound

AndyW35 (13:35) Californians tend to be very healthy

irish_sean69 (13:35) and very fit i do love thouse surfer girls

AndyW35 (13:36) I went and flogged myself with one of Max's old paddles wrighty, I am ok now.

Zod100 (13:36) And very fit :lol:

irish_sean69 (13:36) hahahhaha

Calorus (13:36) Has anyone actually TOLD California they're part of the USA?

BRK (13:36) Looks like Rossie's had a heavy lunch.

irish_sean69 (13:36) :wave:

Jack McGhee (13:36) Hello folks :wave:

AndyW35 (13:36) Baywatch is not unpleasing to watch after all, apart from the script and acting of course.

Jack McGhee (13:36) ooooo, surfer girls, looks like I came at the right time.

Jack McGhee (13:37) .... as it were.

wrighty (13:37) omg andy you get the routari 'sharing' award :eek:

irish_sean69 (13:37) agreed but we do love the slow running

Jack McGhee (13:37) ....the joys of Mute andy

AndyW35 (13:38) I hate the way they say buoy. Buueey

Calorus (13:38) McGhee is a wise'un,

irish_sean69 (13:38) who?

Jack McGhee (13:39) It is pronounced 'boy' isn't it?

AndyW35 (13:39) As long as it is sharing and not shaving a la Max style eh wrighty?!

Calorus (13:39) Andy, come to say Norfolk, we say Buoy properly - though we me "Boy"

Calorus (13:39) Nah, say it as it's written.

AndyW35 (13:39) yes, except in California.

Buzz47 (13:39) Bouy as in Bouyant

Buzz47 (13:39) Not Bouy as in Bowie

Z71 (13:40) Hi any live timing today ?

Calorus (13:40) It's subtle, but it's not 'Boy'.

AndyW35 (13:40) Imagine them saying aluminium bouy. Aluuminum buyee

Calorus (13:40) Urgh.

Jack McGhee (13:41) ... I'm more confused than ever.

Jack McGhee (13:41) Americans definitely say aluminium wrong.

Calorus (13:42) But they spell it wrong, too.

Jack McGhee (13:42) *shakes fist* ....damnnnn themmmmm

irish_sean69 (13:42) they do a lot wrong but we wont tell them let them think they are the best

AndyW35 (13:42) Anyway, getting back to californian girls breasts in slow mo ...

Calorus (13:42) I can't work out if that makes it any better.

Calorus (13:42) Yes, Andy - thanks for keeping tis on-topic.

Calorus (13:42) *this

Scotracer (13:43) Andy, we all know you're thinking about the Hoff in slow mo.

irish_sean69 (13:43) we all proably support different teams but we can all agree that america is rubbish execept california agreed?

Z71 (13:43) lots of girls around today

Buzz47 (13:43) Those Lotus Jackets look nice... I want.

Jack McGhee (13:43) when can we get our hands on Lotus merch?

AndyW35 (13:43) super slo mo man boobs. Yummy.

Calorus (13:44) I'm going to be particularly annoyed when they go to Malaysia.

Jack McGhee (13:44) Isn't New England quite nice?

Zod100 (13:44) WTF is Button doing??? 1m29.833s, 1m28.915s, 1m28.504s...!!!!

Buzz47 (13:44) Question for everyone... would you buy shares in your favourite team if you could?

Calorus (13:44) Nah, screw New England, it really is JUST California - Vermont gets a look in, though

Scotracer (13:45) Nova Scotia is nicer :P

magicon (13:45) is fa doing short runs or long?

zarooch (13:45) nando in 1.24s

magicon (13:45) webber too? slower track?

Scotracer (13:45) Buzz: No.

AndyW35 (13:45) You can with Ferrari, ish Buzz.

Buzz47 (13:45) Just wondering, because some form of share subscription could be a way of funding teams...

Calorus (13:45) ALL of Canadia is nicer, it's justr obscenely cold for 4 months of the year.

magicon (13:46) but how many teams make a profit?

kar (13:46) and full of canadians

Jack McGhee (13:46) @Buzz .... your assuming I have money at all

irish_sean69 (13:46) but i do love the snow. nar canadians are cool like the nicest people on the planet

kar (13:46) well not so much anymore :-)

Calorus (13:46) Kar, I'd agree, but versus American, I can't even joke about it...

Buzz47 (13:46) Sorry, Jack, I forgot

Calorus (13:47) McLaren, Ferrari and Williams must.

Buzz47 (13:47) Magicon, teams could make more profits from a much bigger spread of marketing opportunities

Calorus (13:47) Wouldn't gamble a lot on the others.

AndyW35 (13:47) Tasmania for me.

Jack McGhee (13:47) Vancouver, Canada is some where I'd like to go to.

irish_sean69 (13:47) and some drugs are legal

Scotracer (13:47) I doubt any team is profitable.

Jack McGhee (13:47) I'll be spending the summer in Norway this year too, seems like an awesome place.

Calorus (13:48) I'm in Hong Kong RIGHT NOW, was in Japan this morning. And home first thing tomorrow. How sad.

Zod100 (13:48) What's that thing behind the rear wing of the Mac.. http://twitpic.com/15909j

Scotracer (13:48) Shopping basket.

Jack McGhee (13:48) Aero monitor

Buzz47 (13:48) ... Lotus aftershave... Virgin condoms :lol:

... Williams dog biscuits etc...

Calorus (13:49) Pressure sensors, I think.

AndyW35 (13:49) US F1 SnakeOil ...

Buzz47 (13:50) You have it there Andy

magicon (13:50) why are the times all screwy

Scotracer (13:50) It'll be to check the CFD pressure gradients and velocity profiles of the wake of the rear wing.

Buzz47 (13:50) Fuel loads?

irish_sean69 (13:50) Scotracer how do u no that?

magicon (13:50) so is america or europe nicer to live in?

Jack McGhee (13:50) People say these thing McLaren have put on this year mean they are having problems. I don't think so, that is equipment that has been designed long before the testing.

Calorus (13:51) I can't work that out either. Unless they've gone over to testing set-ups for specific tracks.

magicon (13:51) y?

Jack McGhee (13:51) Europe

Scotracer (13:51) 'cause I'm an Engineer

Calorus (13:51) Europe by a million miles.

Jack McGhee (13:52) well, no particular reason. Its just what I know (begin european). I like America

Buzz47 (13:52) In europe you can generally get sick without being bankrupted by medical costs

Calorus (13:52) UK excepted REAL freedom.

Jack McGhee (13:52) And people don't shoot and entire workforce once they've been fired

Calorus (13:53) i.e. If you're a religious crackpot you live by your rules and everybody lives by theres - France is damn god example.

Buzz47 (13:53) That too, Jack :-)

Jack McGhee (13:53) Plus the US has appalling news media. Truly shocking.

Calorus (13:54) *don't

Calorus (13:54) And people do feel like they're best, and there fore everyone else is rubbish. THAT really gets to me abut the US.

magicon (13:54) Hehe

Buzz47 (13:54) Jack there are some very good papers in the US... but there's also Fox news...

magicon (13:54) but everyone feels they're better

AndyW35 (13:54) The USA have too many adverts, imagine F1 race with 30 commerical breaks.. dreadful. Very lucky now in the UK to have BBC coverage.

Jack McGhee (13:55) Yea, that's true Buzz, some good papers to be fair...

Calorus (13:55) That thing Americans do when they shout "U-S-A" sends shivvers down my spine and turns my stomach.

Jack McGhee (13:56) @Calorus .... 100% agree! I can barely watch any sport with yanks in because of that. They ruin the olympics. I HATE that.

Buzz47 (13:56) Calorous, one of America's most powerful weapons is their patriotism... but its also their biggest achillies heel

Calorus (13:56) WEAPON.

Calorus (13:57) The world needs America and its weapons like it needs fall into the sun.

AndyW35 (13:58) I have to confess that up to now testing hasn't been as exciting as I thought it would be.

Jack McGhee (13:58) ... And they had better support us (the UK) on this Falklands thing, or I'll hate them forever.

AndyW35 (13:58) today I mean

Calorus (13:59) Jack, I don't support us.

Jack McGhee (13:59) I think it needs a video feed Andy.

magicon (13:59) they usually bring the revise aero 2nd day right?>

Buzz47 (13:59) Testing is like watching paint dry, but never being sure its actual paint or whether it is in fact getting any drier

Jack McGhee (13:59) lol

Calorus (13:59) I'm mystified as to why anyone would.

Mandzipop (13:59) I agree, I was wxpecting it to be a bit more exciting.

Mandzipop (13:59) expecting :blush:

AndyW35 (14:00) Well if the times keep going lower it is interesting, but it has been rather plodding today in that regard as they work through their plans

Jack McGhee (14:00) you talking about Falklands there Cal?

mey3059 (14:01) thought there was a drop off period during long stints ... webber's time keeps getting better

Calorus (14:01) Yah yah, We can and should extend the same rights to the Falklanders as we do to other British citizens, but it makes more sense all around for them to be handed over to Arge, with a 100 year Autonomy clause. Ban development of the waters altogether. Everyone'll be dead before the change takes place.

Z71 (14:02) here http://www.msfree.gr/
they are posting timing again

Calorus (14:02) I love everything about msfree except the name!

Gilles4Ever (14:03) autosportnews Mercedes to run final diffuser in Bahrain: #F1 - Mercedes GP will wait until the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix... http://bit.ly/ctVE16

Z71 (14:03) here http://www.msfree.gr/
they are posting timing again :confused:

magicon (14:04) it must be even crazier thn the mclaren one if they're keeping it secret till then

Mandzipop (14:04) :mad:

rodlamas (14:04) I'm just amazed at the possible time differences on Webber's stints.

magicon (14:05) what's he doing?

mey3059 (14:05) @rodlamas possible time differences ?

Calorus (14:06) Yeah, looking at Alonso's lap times, and Webber's I think they're doing high (or low) downforce testing in one sector, then cruising around and going again.

Calorus (14:06) They aren't full hot laps.

mclarenproject4 (14:07) I am sick of this button. McLaren should fire him.

Mandzipop (14:07) Virgin should hopefully be back tomorrow pm.

mclarenproject4 (14:08) button=master of excuses

Buzz47 (14:08) Pffffft

cristianuk (14:09) what happened to button?

magicon (14:09) what's he done now? Also how do you use msfree?

Calorus (14:09) MP4, I reckon he at least deserves a few races before you slate him.

I think he'll be a bit medicore, but you need to give him a chance,

Calorus (14:09) http://www.msfree.gr/includes/livelaps.p...[driver name]

mclarenproject4 (14:09) abt seat fitting

mclarenproject4 (14:09) Complaining as always

magicon (14:10) thank you

Jambo (14:10) Apparently a few drops of rain are falling

Gilles4Ever (14:10) rain?

Mandzipop (14:10) Its starting to drizzle slightly

AndyW35 (14:10) The forecast did say 20% chance, as it does for tomorrow as well....

stevvy1986 (14:11) Hopefully it'll amount to very little, and not really affect the times

mclarenproject4 (14:11) they should have signed gary paffet instead. he's a youngster who's got potential.

Calorus (14:11) [Driver name is just surname, by the way, e.g. BUTTON

magicon (14:11) ok got it

Calorus (14:11) Paffet, is neither young nor has he potential.

mclarenproject4 (14:11) he's younger to button

Calorus (14:12) He also excruciatingly slow.

Calorus (14:12) He's great in a Tin top, but useless in a Formula car.

mclarenproject4 (14:13) So is button

mclarenproject4 (14:13) He deserves a chance

Dalton007 (14:13) Button is fast.

AndyW35 (14:13) I'd say Button is faster than Paffet. He's not impressed like a certain Japanese driver recently for instance.

Calorus (14:13) MP4, I'm beginning to fear I may be feeding trolls, so I'll simply point to the number on is car and say, whilst he's not earth shattering, he's World Champion.

stevvy1986 (14:13) MP4, you reckon they should have signed someone who's not had an awful lots of time in an F1 car, instead of the current world champion? I know they did it with Hamilton, but I fail to understand your reasoning. He's 28/29 is Paffett, so don't know how you can say he's young. Younger than Button maybe, but that doesn't make him young. You seem to have a problem with Button, not entirely sure why.

magicon (14:13) then it's good for lewis/mclaren right? worse case scenario is another hamilton/alonso

Zod100 (14:14) Should have signed Kimi at Mclaren...

stevvy1986 (14:14) *lot

Buzz47 (14:14) mclarenproject4 you are clearly terminally bereft of any knowledge... Button is WDC because he happened to drive faster than anyone else last year.

Calorus (14:14) @Zod, that's fair.

Wrong, but fair.

Zod100 (14:15) Buzz47: He had the fastest car mate.

stevvy1986 (14:15) red flag

JacquesHB (14:15) webber

Mandzipop (14:15) Whats happened now?

mclarenproject4 (14:15) I say that becoz button is an orthodox old school driver, whose "magic" will work only if the car has an 1sec lead over the entire grid.

Buzz47 (14:15) Kimi lacks the dedication expected of McLaren drivers.

stevvy1986 (14:15) webber, rosberg, button, alguersuari, and fauzy are on track

JacquesHB (14:16) webbbbbber

Zod100 (14:16) Kimi's naturally fast

Jack McGhee (14:16) They all are Zod :rolleyes:

this is F1

Calorus (14:16) Button will not win a title without the best car, I think that's a fact.

However Paffet wouldn't win a race in a Formula car. Ever.

Buzz47 (14:16) Zod100, that does not make button slow. He's always been a fast driver when given the right car. Just like all other drivers to a greater or lesser extent

magicon (14:16) they're fastest untill they're not

JacquesHB (14:16) redbull has caused how many red flags?

Zod100 (14:17) Only Kimi challenged Schumacher as a Mclaren driver in the noughties

antrock (14:17) webber stopped in sector 2

Gilles4Ever (14:17) Webber stopped

mclarenproject4 (14:17) At least its work a gamble.

Buzz47 (14:17) Alonso is fast but in the wrong car, he wasn't quick.

Mclaren4ever (14:17) Will be interesting to see if Red Bull can sort out those issues till Bahrain

Calorus (14:17) Raikkonen can win in anything when he's not being a stroppy idiot.

mclarenproject4 (14:17) the same was said of Mika Hakkinen in 1993.Look what happened

magicon (14:18) engine again?

Calorus (14:18) Agreed.

Calorus (14:18) I say anything, I mean, the fastest, second or maybe thrid fast car on a tight grid,

Zod100 (14:18) We shoud compare Button to his teammates. I think we can safely say that Hammy's gonna bury him this year

zooropa (14:18) ask piquet how quick alonso was buzz

irish_sean69 (14:19) must be made in america

magicon (14:19) that renault does not like red bull

Calorus (14:19) Alonso is the same as Raikkonen - except he can win while he is being stroppy idiot.

Calorus (14:20) Magicon - suspect it's Newey's curse.

Zod100 (14:20) I'll phrase it better - Hammy's gonna give Button an ass-whipping this year :lol:

Zod100 (14:20) Or is it ass-whopping

mey3059 (14:20) @calorus with questionable tactics ?

irish_sean69 (14:20) when is the engine ban thing lifted?

Calorus (14:21) Newey's cars are almost always the fastest on the grid, but also the most fragile.
Brawn on the other hand builds almost-as-quick tanks.

AndyW35 (14:21) Lewis should beat Button in qualifying but perhaps the large fuel load will help Button in the race, with the tyres for instance ?? Not sure.

mclarenproject4 (14:21) Anybody know the reasoning behind rating Button above Loeb in that castrol ratings? Are they suggesting to us that F1 is superior to WRC?

Buzz47 (14:21) That has yet to be seen, Zod100. I think they will share the podium quite a few times

reason42 (14:21) are redbull using their own gearbox which is bolted to that renault?

Jack McGhee (14:21) Yes, I believe so, Reason42

zooropa (14:22) m bm

Mandzipop (14:22) Green

stevvy1986 (14:22) It's some sort of complicated points system MP4, not entirely sure how it works

Zod100 (14:22) Buzz47: Agreed but Hammy's will occupy the top step of the podium most of the time

Calorus (14:22) @mey, they ALL use questionable tactics, but I think that the pointy end of questionabilty puts Alonso second on the grid only to Schumacher.

mclarenproject4 (14:22) But its totally misleading.

Jack McGhee (14:23) Questionable tactics is what F1 is all about, pushing it as far as you can.

Mandzipop (14:23) Liuzzi back on track

Calorus (14:23) @Jack, exactly.

stevvy1986 (14:23) Like I said, I don't know how it works. Don't forget as well that there are more F1 races than WRC races, which probably helps those in F1. Not sure how they work the points out though.

mey3059 (14:23) @calorus and considerably away from Kimi ?

Zod100 (14:24) Well my assupmtion is entirely based on his performaces against his past team mates. Look what he did in his rookie year against a double world champion in his rookie year?

Calorus (14:25) @mey, He's not on the grid, but I'd give Alonso the edge on him - particularly with the Singapore fallout.

mey3059 (14:26) i also agree about questionable tactics ... most champions have been ruthless ... ( most successful ones )

Buzz47 (14:27) Zod100, I think Hamilton is quite possibly the best driver in F1, but to say he'll whoop Button's ass is stretching the imagination. I think Button is very quick given the right car - something he's only had since last year...

AndyW35 (14:27) Hill wasn't!

But then he got slammed for it ...

zooropa (14:28) calorous what questionable tactics puts alonso up there with schumacher?

mey3059 (14:28) now does anyone have an idea ... which one is the fastest car as of now ?

Calorus (14:28) Well the only really deserving Champions of the last 2 decades: Prost, Mansell, Schumacher, Alonso, Raikkonen, Hamilton...

Hakkinen is perhaps the exception that proves the rule?

Jack McGhee (14:28) I reckon it is Red Bulls year, mey3059

Buzz47 (14:29) Mey 3059 Its definitely the Virgin.

Jack McGhee (14:29) Senna isn't a deserving champion Calorus?

Zod100 (14:29) Buzz47: Ok I might have been a little too hard on Button and you might be right but on the otherhand you might not. We'll see during the course of the season.

Calorus (14:30) 20 years, Jack...

mey3059 (14:30) but button won all those races at the beginning of the year .... ( is it because he had rubens as teammate ...

)

Calorus (14:30) Actually, Jack you're right.

Calorus (14:31) I can't count.

Buzz47 (14:31) Zod100, as we used to say in MX "When the gate drops, the bullsh*t stops"

Zod100 (14:31) That's beacause his teammate was making error after error every race. Then he got his act together and we saw what happened in the second half of the season

Calorus (14:32) Buzz, cute saying, but I disagree. All's fair in love and war is nearer the truth. When boys are on track they fight drrrrrrrrty.

Jack McGhee (14:32) @Buzz ... thats when it seems to start in F1!

mey3059 (14:33) will stop the button discussion ... he did race well when he needed to ... ( he was more conservative in the second half )

mclarenproject4 (14:33) Button is yet to beat mansell's time on top gear.

Zod100 (14:34) Buzz47: Or wait til the fat lady sings :lol:

Jack McGhee (14:34) I don't think he was so conservative mey3059, I just think the car wasn't that great at that point (though he did hold back a little, just not as much as it would seem)

Calorus (14:34) It won't stop, because at the end of the day whilst (I hope) we all accept that the WDC is just mirror of the WCC, we like to think it's valuable.

Buzz47 (14:35) @Zod100 They have a fat lady singing? She won't be very quick... or is that what they call Lotus?

Mandzipop (14:35) She's singing Like a Virgin

zooropa (14:35) when the hell is ferrari going to do some qualifying laps, i want to see if they are as good as the hype

Z71 (14:35) http://www.msfree.gr/includes/livelaps.p... :up:

I cant find the link for all the drivers this is for 1 only :confused:

Herth (14:35) http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=10929

Zod100 (14:36) Buzz47: It's just a saying mate. The proper expression is don't celebrate til the fat lady sings

Calorus (14:36) This is the kind of thing which reminds that Button is far from a great:

Circuit de Catalunya
Length: 4.655km/2.892 miles
2009 Q2: Barrichello (Brawn) - 1m19.954s
2009 FL: Barrichello (Brawn) - 1m22.762s

Dalton007 (14:36) One race, calorus?

Z71 (14:36) Herth :up:

Gilles4Ever (14:37) 1:18.9 in this test last year

Calorus (14:38) *Not that he wasn't god

Calorus (14:38) Not that wasn't god, but that he was far from a great: Barichello is a good driver, a widely excepted as merely that - to be white washed over a whole weekend like that with the same machinery, speaks volumes.

Dalton007 (14:38) One race, though? RB could beat Michael on his day.

Calorus (14:39) *good

ARGH!

mclarenproject4 (14:39) Button is not aggressive

irish_sean69 (14:39) yes he is

mclarenproject4 (14:39) no he's not

Zod100 (14:40) He's as gentle as a little lamb :lol:

irish_sean69 (14:40) brazil last year to name one

Buzz47 (14:40) Aggression is not always a strong point - and last year at Brazil, Button WAS aggressive...

Dalton007 (14:40) Check out the race laptimes from Button -- his race pace was brilliant.

Calorus (14:40) Dalton, I see where you're going, but it's a pretty random sample, but not an entirely unrepresentative one.

irish_sean69 (14:40) he could do good all about tire wear this year

wrighty (14:40) lol @ mandzipop, i had a picture for a second there of DiGrassi cavorting in a venetian gondola :lol:

thanks for that......

Calorus (14:41) That and his seeming reliance on Barichelo's set-ups. Don't fill me with awe.

mclarenproject4 (14:41) I love Alonso's intimidating attitude

jonathanknevels (14:42) xan someone give me the greek link ?

UPRC (14:42) Hi folks. Any idea if Mercedes is running anything new at this test?

mclarenproject4 (14:42) Button is a predictable guy. You know what he's saying before he opens his mouth.

zooropa (14:42) button might not even outqualify hamilton once all season

Mandzipop (14:43) http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=10840

jonathanknevels (14:43) live timing link anyone ?

Buzz47 (14:43) Will we see a 1:20 today?

jonathanknevels (14:44) :clap:

Mandzipop (14:44) Depends if they do a glory run at the end of the day.

Calorus (14:44) HI UPRC!, not to my knowledge - Diffuser is saved for Round 1...

mclarenproject4 (14:45) Button lacks that killer instinct.

Calorus (14:45) (So says the grapevine)

UPRC (14:45) Yeah, just read that. They'll have other aerodynamical upgrades tomorrow though?

Calorus (14:46) We'll hope, but there's been no word - we'll need photos from tomozza to know for sure.

Calorus (14:46) Looks like Saturdays car to my eyes, though.

Calorus (14:47) (Today)

UPRC (14:47) Everything I'm reading at the moment indicates updates to the car tomorrow. :up:

Jack McGhee (14:49) wow, the lotus in that latest pic looks awesome :up:

Calorus (14:49) Norfolk's finest! Fast cars and mustard!

mclarenproject4 (14:49) Buttons needs to come out of that shell of his & set a decent time for his own good.

Scotracer (14:50) Pity it's so damn slow

Calorus (14:50) MP4, he needs to do that next month. Right now, stop chasing mist.

UPRC (14:50) Button was always at the top last week, what's with the negativity towards him?

Mandzipop (14:50) Same with Alonso. i want to see how fast that Ferrari is.

Jack McGhee (14:50) early days scotracer.

mclarenproject4 (14:51) At least Alonso is outspoken

Buzz47 (14:52) UPRC Ignorant fanboys is the main problem. People should resepect the fact that the "useless" drivers are usually only a few seconds if not tenths of the pace.

RoutariEnjinu (14:52) That Lotus is pretty

Jack McGhee (14:53) barely even tenths in recent years Buzz

Z71 (14:53) Rosberg is on a 19 laps run and 1.24 avg.

UPRC (14:53) It's silly of them to even analyze testing times anyway.

Buzz47 (14:53) Egg-zachery, Jack

mclarenproject4 (14:54) Its doesn't seem silly anymore,ever since Alonso's statements.

Buzz47 (14:54) The basic point is, we are here all bantering on this forum. The drivers are driving because they are better drivers than any of us could hope to be.

Calorus (14:54) UPRC: if you're talking about MP4, then Buzz's anser suffices.

But at the same time, as I said earlier - people like to feel a Champion deserved it - even when they don't like them.

Jack McGhee (14:55) Always makes me laugh how people describe some F1 drivers as slow .... such as Nelson Piquet.

mclarenproject4 (14:56) whose fanboy do u think I am

Calorus (14:56) Buzz - that's a pointless statement, tantamount to no-one should ever talk about anything because if they were good enough to talk, they'd be doing it.

Calorus (14:56) MP4, you're the opposite. you're an Anti-Button troll.

Buzz47 (14:56) Calorous it just puts into context that us average joes cannot reasonably call an F1 diver useless because he's a few seconds slower.

Calorus (14:57) (And that's come from someone who desn't rate him)

Buzz47 (14:57) *driver

AnomanderRake (14:57) I too am an anti-button troll. I prefer Zips!

mclarenproject4 (14:57) calling someone a troll you've never met reflects on your upbringing

UPRC (14:57) Hardly.

Buzz47 (14:58) Velcro for me

RoutariEnjinu (14:58) Rubber all in one for me

RoutariEnjinu (14:58) Creep in through the face orafice

Calorus (14:59) Buzz, it just doesn't. That's like saying only a Beauty Queen can find anyone attractive.

We can say outright that, when it comes to driving an F1 car, LH/MS/FA are very good, Paffet is very bad, everyone else falls into the spectrum.

Jack McGhee (14:59) As a nudist, your oppressive garment fixtures mean nothing to me.

RoutariEnjinu (14:59) Oriface

RoutariEnjinu (14:59) HOLE

Calorus (14:59) (Everyone else on the grid)

Calorus (14:59) WE are all in the Infrareds.

jonathanknevels (15:01) greek site isnt working anymore ? :confused:

Buzz47 (15:01) I agree with your point Calorus. :up:

Buzz47 (15:02) refresh it, jonathan

Mandzipop (15:02) The Greek site stopped working for me but there is a link to the Barcelona test and it re-loads it.

Z71 (15:03) Rosberg is on a 25 laps run and 1.24.9 avg.

Scotracer (15:03) 1:28.4 from the Lotus...GP2 pace :lol:

Calorus (15:03) We've broken MSFree with LOVE!

jonathanknevels (15:04) i get a pic of jensons pit board, not the times ?

Calorus (15:04) We've broken MSFree with LOVE!

Calorus (15:05) Dammit, when people have good ideas, they need to put them on servers good enough to cope.

magicon (15:05) alonso ending stints with two slow laps. hmm what's going on

Mandzipop (15:05) Thats whatt I had. At the right of it there is a link to Barcelona. It takes you back to the current testing page.

PH1L (15:06) I know this is a stupid question but a few years ago they have a live timing site running but i can't remember the site. Does anyone remember it or know if one

zooropa (15:06) i wonder what ferrari are upto, i thought they would go for performance this test.

Mandzipop (15:07) Try it again

http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=10929

Jack McGhee (15:08) you would think formula1.com would have some live timing :rolleyes:

Z71 (15:09) How is the weather in the circuit now and for tomorrow

PH1L (15:10) thats what i thought but i don't. I thought i found one site with live picture but it was just a fake site sending me to many other sites.... Its annoying,

Mandzipop (15:12) Alguersuari, Liuzzi and Rosberg on track if you cant get the link

Buzz47 (15:12) Rosberg's done some laps today...

Calorus (15:13) I'm going to say it again because it really is the only thing that makes sense: I really don't think any of the big 4 are testing Barcelona settings, or pushing for whole laps - the times are too inconsistent, and Webber's time is too fast compared to everyone else's. It looks to me as though they're driving say, Sector 3 hard with high downforce, the cruising around and going again.... no way to know without seeing sector spilts, though.

stevvy1986 (15:13) red flag

Mandzipop (15:13) Ferrari has unveiled a new engine capos shaped shark as used by McLaren

I've just c*p'd that

Mandzipop (15:14) Sorry copied and pasted

Mastah (15:15) are they running with it?

jonathanknevels (15:15) thin k not

Mandzipop (15:15) Dunno. Got it from a French site I look at.

http://www.f1-direct.fr/live-essais-priv...

jonathanknevels (15:16) twitter update comooon :lol:

Mastah (15:17) thanks for info, i stopped using that web cause they translate 95% from motor21

PH1L (15:17) has he just stopped or hit something

jonathanknevels (15:18) out of fuel

BRK (15:20) Not sure about that,I think he was only on his outlap.

jonathanknevels (15:21) just messign with you guys

PH1L (15:21) just read this on 3 website now and it looks like there out "The new US F1 team will almost certainly not race this season" BBC, ESPN and Eurosport have it

cristianuk (15:21) :clap:

Mandzipop (15:22) Green flag

Mandzipop (15:23) Alonso out too

PH1L (15:23) :clap:

Buzz47 (15:24) The rain in London falls mainly on the Buzz

PH1L (15:25) a open top buzz?

Buzz47 (15:28) :lol:

PrettyBoy22 (15:29) USF1 to go? good...get Stefan in quick

PH1L (15:29) PMSL" Former FIA president Max Mosley has described Ferrari as a middle aged woman who is jealous of the attention new beautiful women around her are getting. "

Buzz47 (15:29) talk about an agonising death... Poor USF1...

PrettyBoy22 (15:30) amazing how he slags Ferrari off now he's left the F.I.A

PH1L (15:31) yeah. think it has something to do with there blog the other day

Mandzipop (15:34) I am now worried about Ferrari's times

KeefG (15:35) afternoon ladies :wave:

Mandzipop (15:36) Afternoon :wave:

PH1L (15:36) does anyone now if the 107% rule is still in for quali times now they are back on no refueling?

jonathanknevels (15:37) no

PrettyBoy22 (15:37) hope not for Virgin, Lotus, Campos sake

KeefG (15:37) Webbers Red Bull been on fire today?

KeefG (15:37) not literally on fire....

froggy22 (15:38) webber's red bull has wings

KeefG (15:38) lol

PH1L (15:38) so a new team could be 10 seconds or more of the time and be lapped in a few laps and can still race.... A few mobile cacane

KeefG (15:38) he's driving a tena lady??

Mandzipop (15:38) :lol:

jonathanknevels (15:39)
hulkenberg fast

jonathanknevels (15:39) only 3 laps ...low fuel

Buzz47 (15:40) I think Williams are going to upset a few applecarts this year

KeefG (15:40) witha cosworth engine? noooooooooooooooo chance

Jambo (15:41) I wouldn't be quick to discredit that engine

mey3059 (15:42) heikki and rubens tweeted that the engine is good

Jack McGhee (15:42) Whats wrong with the cosworth engine?

Buzz47 (15:42) What is wrong with the Cosworth?

KeefG (15:42) i'll put my house on it that a cosworth engined car does not get a pole position or on the podium this season

jcrb (15:42) s wrong with the cosworth engine?

Jambo (15:42) Nothing at all, its looking quite strong so far actually.

Buzz47 (15:42) Snap, Jack

RoutariEnjinu (15:43) It must be sooooooooo frustrating having someone upset your applecart. They'd be rolling all over the place, they'd get dirty, they'd become bruised.

I can think of few things more annoying.

FlashMaster (15:43) Cosworth is stronger than most expect, Williams already confirmed

Jambo (15:43) Reliable so far and more powerful than the Toyota anyway

Buzz47 (15:43) Keef, can I have your address. I want to look at my new house!

RoutariEnjinu (15:43) The problem stems from only having one axle

KeefG (15:43) lol buzz

Hippo (15:44) or at least say where it is, so that we can check if we like the place

mey3059 (15:44) @keefG considering Williams is the only one which can be considered (close to )competitive ... smart

KeefG (15:44) we'll see.....

jonathanknevels (15:44) every cosworth engine is good
race and road use

Buzz47 (15:44) An upset applecart can be very difficult to placate

Jambo (15:45) The triple in the Aprilia was maybe questionable but still had great power

KeefG (15:45) so the williams has a chance of a pole/podium over the McLarens, Ferrari's, Mercedes & Red Bulls? Not to mention the Renaults & Saubers? Thats 12 cars that are, IMHO, already better than the Williams.

RoutariEnjinu (15:45) Was Webbers lap a part of a stint?

PrettyBoy22 (15:46) Toro Rosso is equal to Williams in my opinion

Jack McGhee (15:46) Renault is not better than Williams

Jambo (15:46) Am feeling optimistic about Williams this year, think the team is too.

Jack McGhee (15:47) Toro Rosso?! .... Jesus :rolleyes:

KeefG (15:47) I disagree Jack

Jambo (15:47) There is certainly a feeling of quiet confidence coming from them

Ravindra Nagpurkar (15:47) I'm not so sure if we know the pecking order yet..but WIlliams beating the top 4 is a long shot...they will probably fight with renault, sauer, Force India.

Jack McGhee (15:47) Not to mention their points from last year only came from one driver. And they are looking even better this year.

Buzz47 (15:48) That lousy Cosworth is putting Williams at the top end of the table right now...

buzatlas (15:48) Ferrari new shark cover.

http://mm.motor21.com/%2FEspa%F1ol%2FDep...

Ravindra Nagpurkar (15:49) Quiet confidence is quite a common occurrence for williams in testing

SaintDean (15:49) when does this session finish? 4pm gmt?

Buzz47 (15:49) Hmmm another F! joining the bread van ranks

magicon (15:49) ferrari not looking fast

Jack McGhee (15:49) Whats with the rear disc cover in that pic? I thought that vulgarity was banned?

Jambo (15:49) Not really Rav

stevvy1986 (15:49) yup

Hippo (15:49) yeah, the thing attached to the wheel looks "strange"

Jambo (15:50) If Williams had two drivers scoring points last year they wouldn't have been far off Ferrari, of course the same could be said for them.

Mastah (15:50) ok fellas, traditional red flag in a few minutes? :lol:

Jack McGhee (15:51) 15:56 is my bet for red flag

SaintDean (15:53) lotus a whole 1 second behind

gregtheman (15:53) Button doing a great run

jonathanknevels (15:53) only 7 min left today ?

gregtheman (15:53) best of the whole day

RoutariEnjinu (15:53) I hope button has fully "clicked" with his steed now

SantiagoVR (15:54) LOTUS sucks!!!!!

wrighty (15:54) i don't think that (in the ferrari picture) is attached to the wheel, i think thats the wheel rim itself

RoutariEnjinu (15:54) I hope he finds his comfort zone, and the McLaren engineers can dial in to it easily

Jack McGhee (15:54) I don't think this is a reflection of Lotus .... Fauzy is driving :down:

Jack McGhee (15:54) LOTUS rocks!!!!

mclarenproject4 (15:54) button doesn't have the courage to set the fastest lap

SantiagoVR (15:55) LOTUS sucks!!!!

RoutariEnjinu (15:55) LOTUS I'm indifferent!!!!!!

Mandzipop (15:55) Obviously Ferrari are done for the day.

metatem (15:55) LOTUS nevermind!!!

cristianuk (15:55) Lotus is the best looking car :eek:

wrighty (15:55) dear oh dear project4 you're here for the merciless bashing arent you :down:

cristianuk (15:55) :clap:

froggy22 (15:55) it does appear that the Virgin is fast but fragile and the lotus is slow but reliable

SantiagoVR (15:55) :lol:

Jack McGhee (15:55) @MP4 ... what? lol

Mandzipop (15:55) I'm wrong

AnomanderRake (15:56) Since when has 5.5 secs off the pace been fast?

Mandzipop (15:56) red flag

KateLM (15:56) 15.56 the winner for a red flag!

Mastah (15:56) yep, fred is out

Jack McGhee (15:56) hey Kate
thats my call

froggy22 (15:56) watch alonso go fastest now

Mastah (15:56) who said 15/6:56? :lol:

Mastah (15:56) :lol:

Jack McGhee (15:56) damn, forget that ... 58 for me now :lol:

Jack McGhee (15:57) argh!

froggy22 (15:57) im comparing the 2 new teams

Jack McGhee (15:57) so close

Jambo (15:57) Jenson stoped

Mandzipop (15:57) Button

stevvy1986 (15:57) back to normal then, a red flag in the last 30mins

KateLM (15:57) Session over then I guess

AnomanderRake (15:57) Ah, well OK then.

KeefG (15:57) lol....who is it this time?

metatem (15:57) oooh

mclarenproject4 (15:57) I challenge Button to beat Webber's time.

Jambo (15:57) Stopped at turn 10

JacquesHB (15:57) go button!!!

RoutariEnjinu (15:57) OK... WHOEVER caused this RF needs to be kicked in the NUTS

Jack McGhee (15:58) These red flags can't be an accident :drunk:

KeefG (15:58) how do you know its button?

mclarenproject4 (15:58) Its button :clap:

KeefG (15:58) apart from its just said up there lol

stevvy1986 (15:58) I don't know why you're happy MP4, other than the fact you obviously hate Button for no apparent reason

Jambo (15:58) The magic of twitter

whoisjohngalt (15:58) WTF :lol:

RoutariEnjinu (15:58) He didn't have the courage to do Turn 11

AnomanderRake (15:59) We could take an MP5 to MP4?

KeefG (15:59) lol routari

mclarenproject4 (15:59) I don't hate him. I feel he's not the man for us.

RoutariEnjinu (15:59) Why did you hire him then?

HoldenRT (15:59) webber wins

Buzz47 (15:59) MP4 is tragically childish

cristianuk (15:59) :wave:

FINISH

Mastah (15:59) aka troll

stevvy1986 (15:59) Session over

RoutariEnjinu (15:59) Us?

wrighty (15:59) coincidentally, i'm starting to feel that you arent the man for us either project4 :lol:

Mandzipop (15:59) I doubt they'll resume the session

Jack McGhee (16:00) lol @ anom

gregtheman (16:00) pretty sure he's out of fuel

mclarenproject4 (16:00) The troll word has become a cliche over here

RoutariEnjinu (16:00) Marlboro Project 4

cristianuk (16:00)

FlashMaster (16:00) mp4 is a guest in my ignore list

DrChatNuff (16:00) :wave:

wrighty (16:00) you'd do well to look it up project4

Ravindra Nagpurkar (16:00) WTF button

Mandzipop (16:00) :wave:

stevvy1986 (16:01) Haha, MP4, that's a comical comment, considering you think, rather hilariously, amusingly, and comically, you feel they'd be better off with Paffett. It's clearly more than just a case of you not feeling he's the man for McLaren

SaintDean (16:01) button did a fuel run............

KeefG (16:01) wonder why he's stopped?

FlashMaster (16:01) "too" low fuel run

cristianuk (16:01) :clap:

wrighty (16:01) right, thanks for the company peeps, i'll cyas tomorrow :wave:

cristianuk (16:01) yuuuuhu

SaintDean (16:01) calibrate the fuel levels. Havnt you noticed that its always before the end

KeefG (16:01) if he's out of fuel and only got a fastest lap of 1.23.4 then McLaren are not as fast as we thought!!!

SaintDean (16:01) so cause as little disruption as possible.

Mastah (16:01) InsideFerrari

Testing finished some minutes earlier than scheduled because of another rabbit!! :confused:

SaintDean (16:02) somee people...... bah

FlashMaster (16:02) "yuhuu" ? Webber "won" the session? fking hell

jcrb (16:02) but his tires were worn out after 16 laps? how much time difference would this make, anyone knows?

Jack McGhee (16:02) we'll see....

Mastah (16:02) jens killer rabbit or what? :confused:

metatem (16:02) keef, that's a good point

FlashMaster (16:02) Run Rabbit Run

Mastah (16:02) *killed

HoldenRT (16:03) i just thought of something :blush:

if there is only tyre stops and everyone has full tanks.. what hope do backmarkers have of getting some points? what strategy can they run?

metatem (16:03) i have no idea

KeefG (16:03) fair point about the tyres, even so still nearly 2 secs off thr red bulls pace, did webber do some low fuel, fresh tyre glory runs early on?

mclarenproject4 (16:03) Conclusion from today's test:

McLaren is fast

Button is slow.

mey3059 (16:03) wasnt there another reference to rabbit by ferrari during jerez ?
The Merc looks strong ...

FlashMaster (16:03) FOR SURE mp4

cristianuk (16:03) lol

FlashMaster (16:04) bye mastah cya

cristianuk (16:04) stupids why only 14 days of testing

stevvy1986 (16:04) Yeah that's right MP4, McLaren is fast, Button is slow. Stop spouting trash like that, and just admit you hate him and want him to fail miserably.

HoldenRT (16:04) webber did 2-3 lap stints but he wasnt on fumes, but lowish fuel

nish2280 (16:04) i think the rabbit reference is actually saying that the session ended under a red flag

mclarenproject4 (16:04) Glory runs or not. A fast lap is a fast lap

HoldenRT (16:04) q2 time last year low 1.20's

KeefG (16:05) cya mastah :wave:

Mastah (16:05) see ya flash

KeefG (16:05) will be interesting to see what Lewis does tomorrow

mclarenproject4 (16:05) Why should I hate him? We need him of WCC at least.

jcrb (16:05) i think Webber's were all glory runs when he did his times... 3 x 3 laps

jcrb (16:05) still, 2 sec is maybe a bit much

KeefG (16:06) 2 secs is a lifetime in F1

Mastah (16:06) see ya all (except trolls) tomorrow :wave:

mclarenproject4 (16:06) Dump button, pay whatever raikkonen asks for.

jcrb (16:06) what is the meaning of "Glory runs or not. A fast lap is a fast lap"?? Sounds like an idiot sentence

stevvy1986 (16:07) Raikkonen? Oh, so you've changed from saying they should have Paffett instead then

jcrb (16:07) dunno if 2sec is a lifetime in F1 these days... with full tanks there seem to be 5 to 6sec difference

FlashMaster (16:08) bye all trolls, cya tomorrow but tell me whats ur next nickname please!

Buzz47 (16:08) MP4 if Button beats Hamilton in the WDC you'll still be calling for his head.

stevvy1986 (16:08) cya flash

jcrb (16:08) it's gonna be interesting to see cars slowing down suddenly when the tyres are gone... just like Vettel had a couple of times last year

mclarenproject4 (16:08) No I'd eat my hat if that happens.

KeefG (16:08) yeah, but if button has stopped on track because he's out of fuel, then the mclaren has been doing low fuel runs, admittedly on worn tyres, in the 1.23's

irish_sean69 (16:08) by by all hope to see u chaps here tomorrow :clap:

irish_sean69 (16:08) :wave:

Jack McGhee (16:09) :wave:

jcrb (16:09) of course last year the hard thing was that worn out tyres or not, the guys had to synchronize their stop with their refuelling needs... this year they can just stop whenever they feel new tyres would do better

mclarenproject4 (16:09) Tomorrow's a holiday for me

I'll hang around for the entire duration :wave:

KeefG (16:10) yippeeee MP4 :well:

stevvy1986 (16:12) the joys of an ignore list

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