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LIVE COMMENTARY: JEREZ FIRST 2014 TEST - TEST DAY FOUR

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As it happened: Test day four
By Matt Beer, Sam Tremayne, Glenn Freeman and Kevin Turner

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07:50 Good morning and welcome to day four from Jerez.

The weather forecast for the final day of F1 testing in Spain has changed several times this week, but we've got a bit of rain and a wet track at the moment.

Sergio Perez F1 Force India 2014

08:01 We're green and Rosberg immediately heads out. Will Mercedes complete the most laps again today?

08:02 It's pretty dark, more like sportscar conditions than Formula 1!

08:03 Rosberg comes straight in. Not a big surprise.

08:04 There are a few changes to get excited about today, including the Caterham debut of Kamui Kobayashi - his first official F1 session for over 12 months.

Here is the full run-down of day four's drivers:

Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull
Nico Rosberg, Mercedes
Fernando Alonso, Ferrari
Kevin Magnussen, McLaren
Daniel Juncadella, Force India
Adrian Sutil, Sauber
Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso
Felipe Massa, Williams
Kamui Kobayashi, Caterham
Jules Bianchi, Marussia

08:04 Sutil now heads out for Sauber.

08:06 Massa takes the Williams out as well.

08:07 Of course, it's not the first time in 12 months Kobayashi has actually driven an F1 car.

He tested a 2010 Ferrari F1 car at Fiorano in May last year, and then two months later drove another Ferrari during a Moscow City Racing demonstration event.

That didn't end so well though - he lost control on the wet surface and hit the barriers.

08:08 Sutil and and Massa both come in, so no times recorded yet.

08:10 And Alonso takes the Ferrari out. He was the only man able to get among the Mercedes-engined runners yesterday.

08:10 Rosberg goes back out.

08:12 Alonso comes back in as Ricciardo goes out. Can Red Bull get some decent running today? The team only managed three laps yesterday.

08:14 Rosberg has come back in. Ricciardo has also made it back to the pits, while Toro Rosso rookie Daniil Kvyat heads out.

08:15 Earlier in the week, Toro Rosso boss Franz Tost said he felt the 2014 regulations won't prevent rookie drivers from showing well:

"For sure it's not easy this year, but it's always the same story. The cleverer a driver is the easier he adapts to any changes. And don't forget, especially this year, the drivers will be supported by the engineers. They will decide which [engine] map to use.

"I don't see it as a disadvantage to start in F1 as a young driver this year, although everything is not as easy as in the past when we just had the V8s."

08:16 Kvyat comes in as Rosberg heads out for the third time in just over 15 minutes.

08:19 Quick summary of the week so far:

* Ferrari sets the pace early with Kimi Raikkonen.
* McLaren takes control on days two and three with Jenson Button and Kevin Magnussen.
* Mercedes look strong, covering more laps than anyone despite a front wing failure for Lewis Hamilton on day one.
* Renault-engined teams in trouble, with Red Bull failing to have any meaningful running on the first three days.

08:25 Kobayashi has gone out for his first run in the new Caterham.

08:26 Sutil comes out again. Nine cars have already been on-track, including all three Renault-engined machines, but no times have yet been recorded.

08:29 Ricciardo heads out again as Sutil records the first flying lap of the day at 1m53.700s.

08:31 Kvyat heads out too. This is Renault's most promising morning this week already!

08:33 Sutil has now recorded 1m50.885s. The best of the test so far, in the dry, is Magnussen's 1m23.276s, which he set yesterday.

08:34 And Ricciardo does a 1m45.374s. A Red Bull tops the timesheet for the first time this week!

08:36 Sutil improves again, but is still second. Alonso and Kobayashi have also gone out.

08:37 Sutil improves again. Ricciardo is back in, but is still fastest.

08:39 It's very early this morning still, but the simple fact that Red Bull is on track and running is encouraging for the champion team, such has been its plight this week.

JONATHAN NOBLE got the inside line on Red Bull and Renault's problems yesterday for his Thursday test feature:

Alarm bells ringing at Red Bull

08:40 We assessed what the drivers have been making of F1 2014 yesterday, and Sutil had this to say:

"It's so different and you can feel it in every gear. It's not about using all the rev band anymore. The torque is in the middle of the rev band so you can sometimes shift a bit earlier, or use different gears in a corner, it doesn't really make a difference.

"So the engine is a lot more powerful in the rev band than the V8. The V8 was more operating between 15 and 18,000rpm so you always had to keep the revs up.

"Also we have eight gears, so you never run into a limiter at the end of the straight, you can go at almost 400km/h with these gears so it's very different, a massive change in every direction."

08:42 Sutil has pitted and we now only have Rosberg out on the circuit.

08:44 Force India's Daniel Juncadella reports back on the track conditions.

@clubforce: "Dani reports standing water between turns 5 and 6 but 'not too much' following his opening lap at the wheel of a VJM07. #FeelTheForce"

08:45 And Rosberg now goes to the top of the times, with 1m38.778s.

08:47 Juncadella has got a test and reserve deal with Force India this season.

He's the 2012 European Formula 3 champion and will dovetail his new F1 commitments with racing for Mercedes in the DTM again.

If you want to check out the full statistics from the young Spaniard's career so far, including all his results in car racing, here's his page in our FORIX database - the most comprehensive motorsport stats resource on the internet and available as part of the AUTOSPORT subscription package.

08:48 Ricciardo has already done more laps today - five - then he managed yesterday!

08:50 Rosberg has got down to 1m38.157s. Only three drivers have recorded a time so far, though Bianchi has just taken the Marussia out.

08:51 AUTOSPORT has expanded around the globe in recent years, and if you want to keep up with the Jerez F1 test in Arabic, our Middle Eastern arm AUTOSPORT.me is also covering the test live.

08:54 Bianchi is in, Kvyat and Sutil head out, while Rosberg continues his run. We've got used to the Mercedes W05 lapping as others sit in the pits this week. Rosberg is currently doing 1m38s.

08:56 Kvyat comes past the pits. The Toro Rosso still doesn't sound 100 per cent, but it is at least running.

08:57 And Kvyat gets a lap on the board - 1m45.817s to go third.

09:00 The Toro Rosso improves again and is closing on Sutil's Sauber, which has just set its own PB. Rosberg is still lapping in the 1m38s, six seconds quicker than anyone else.

09:02 Kvyat records a 1m44.016s and is firmly second at the moment. Massa has taken the Williams out too.

09:04 Kvyat is in - happily under his own steam. Rosberg has also pitted, leaving Sutil and Massa on track.

09:04 Magnussen takes the McLaren out as Massa goes second with 1m40.020s.

09:06 Massa was a happy man after his first taste of the new Williams on Thursday - and he has found other positives at his team too.

In fact, the Williams motorhome staff were the subject of his biggest praise...having been a big sceptic of English food after so long in Italy.

"Honestly, I am happy for the food here – it is better than expected here. Not in England itself, but in the motorhome," he said.

"With the motorhome I would say I am very happy with the food – but in England I don't think it will change!

"And the coffee is much better in Italy, so maybe I need to buy a coffee machine for the team."

09:10 More pitstops, so now it is just Kobayashi out on track.

09:10 And no sooner have we typed that Bianchi heads out in the Marussia.

09:13 Rising British star James Calado is clearly reading AUTOSPORT Live this morning as he's just got straight onto Twitter to defend his nation's culinary honour:

"@Felipe1Massa nothing wrong with English food mate!!"

09:13 Kobayashi sets a 1m50.299s, so we now have six drivers who have set a time.

09:14 Make that seven as Bianchi does 1m48.192s to go ahead of the Caterham.

09:17 Rosberg is back out and Alonso follows. The Ferrari has yet to set a time this morning.

09:20 Rosberg had this to say on the change from the 2013 V8s to the new 1.6-litre turbos:

"The car feels OK, not too different. It is heavier, so it feels like last year with a lot of fuel, and of course there is a lot less downforce.

"The engine is a bit different and we have higher gears, so in the hairpin you're going to be using third gear instead of first gear sometimes."

It's interesting that he feels the Mercedes is "not too different" as many drivers have been emphasising the difference between the 2013 and '14 cars. Is that indicative of how much more prepared Mercedes is compared to the others?

09:23 The Mercedes is back down into the 1m38s and 1m39s. Almost every flying lap Rosberg has done this morning has been quicker than the best of the other runners.

09:25 The 2014 Mercedes is the main cover star of this week's edition of AUTOSPORT magazine.

It's a new season launch special, containing in-depth analysis of and Gary Anderson's verdict on the leading teams' new designs.

We examine the implications of Ron Dennis's return to the helm of McLaren, talk to Paddy Lowe about Mercedes' prospects in the new era and take a detailed look at the issues Ferrari must address this season.

There are also interviews with Nico Hulkenberg, Valtteri Bottas and Adrian Sutil.

If you haven't already been to a newsagent, you can read the digital version here.

09:25 Magnussen jumps to third with 1m40.702s. He topped yesterday's running in the dry without pushing too hard.

09:28 JONATHAN NOBLE also reckons his magazine column this week contains "the most animals that have ever appeared in the first sentence of anything in AUTOSPORT".

It probably would take some beating, as it reads...

"An anteater, a proboscis monkey, a crooked crab and a beluga whale walk into a bar. The bartender looks up and says, 'Is this some kind of Formula 1 joke?'"

You can find it on page 11.

09:28 Magnussen makes a quick pitstop and heads back out. Rosberg and Massa are the other two cars out there and they are running quite close together.

09:30 Fantastic from Massa. As he closes on Rosberg he fishtails out of the last corner to record 1m39.313s, a new PB.

09:32 Here's more from Massa on how happy he is at Williams.

09:32 But Magnussen now goes second, 1m38.391s. Like Massa, he is on the Pirelli inters.

09:34 Sutil and Kobayashi are now out too, so we have five on track.

09:34 Four again, as Massa comes in.

09:35 Kobayashi improves and moves to sixth.

09:38 Magnussen pits briefly and heads straight back out. Juncadella isn't far behind him in the Force India.

09:39 Kobayashi continues to bring his times down and has now managed a 1m44.859s to go fifth.

09:41 Alonso heads out. Only he and Juncadella have yet to set a time so far.

09:41 Sutil jumps past Kobayashi with 1m44.403s, but Juncadella then comes across the line and goes a fraction faster. That puts him fifth.

09:43 Rosberg looks like he is seeing how the Pirelli inter wears and degrades. He's still out there, but now lapping in the 1m41s. Magnussen may be doing the same thing for McLaren.

09:47 Alonso just had a huge moment on the kink approaching the final hairpin, but he has now gone fourth, 1m40.194s. Juncadella has also improved.

09:49 The looks and sounds of the 2014 F1 cars have caused fervent debate all week, but we've yet to hear much from those who will spend the season in them.

Yesterday KEVIN TURNER gathered the views of the men behind the wheel, hearing from Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Nico Rosberg, Valtteri Bottas, Esteban Gutierrez, Sergio Perez and Adrian Sutil to get a sense of how different the new cars feel from the cockpit.

The drivers' verdict on F1 2014

09:51 Worth noting that Alonso set his time on the Pirelli wet, whereas the top times have been coming on the intermediate. Different programmes obviously being tried by the teams.

09:55 Rosberg is the only car still out on track as he continues what could be a race simulation.

09:57 SAM TREMAYNE has just come back from some trackside viewing. He reports the Mercedes looks impressive. More on his verdict on the 2014 cars later.

09:59 Rosberg finally pits. He has completed 42 laps, which is twice as many as the next best, Sutil on 21.

09:59 Rosberg goes straight out again so his long run is not over.

10:04 And on his fresh rubber, Rosberg improves his best time, now 1m37.580s.

10:06 Rosberg in and back out again. Massa has joined the Mercedes and McLaren on track, and now Ricciardo heads out too.

10:09 Massa improves to 1m39.256s, but is still third.

10:13 A quick rundown of what people have done so far:

1 Rosberg (Mercedes) 1m37.580s, 49 laps
2 Magnussen (McLaren) 1m38.391s, 19 laps
3 Massa (Williams) 1m39.256s, 13 laps
4 Alonso (Ferrari) 1m39.999s, 16 laps
5 Juncadella (Force India) 1m41.925s, 8 laps
6 Kvyat (Toro Rosso) 1m44.016s, 8 laps
7 Sutil (Sauber) 1m44.224s, 21 laps
8 Kobayashi (Catherham) 1m44.859s, 15 laps
9 Ricciardo (Red Bull) 1m45.374s, 7 laps
10 Bianchi (Marussia) 1m48.192s, 5 laps

10:15 Massa is closing up behind Magnussen, having already gone by Alonso.

10:15 And Magnussen lets the Williams by, even though both lapped in the 1m41s last time around.

10:17 Kobayashi, who came out not far behind Rosberg, sets a PB of 1m44.131s as the Mercedes draws away from his Caterham.

10:20 SAM TREMAYNE reports that Magnussen looked like he was pushing pretty hard while our man was stood trackside.

10:21 Though yesterday Magnussen was adamant that his first day on official duty for McLaren wasn't "balls to the wall". He was quickest, though...

10:22 Kobayashi is bringing his times down again and has now moved ahead of Kvyat, who we've not seen for a while, to go fifth fastest.

10:24 McLaren can't keep itself out of the headlines so far in 2014: Dennis back, Boullier brought in, and this week a lot of focus on its innovative rear suspension 'blockers'.

Last night AUTOSPORT revealed that rival teams have started making enquiries to the FIA about the McLaren design's legality with a view to starting work on their own versions, though as GARY ANDERSON explained in his analysis, copying it won't be easy.

10:24 We've now got a busier track than we've seen for most of this week, with Rosberg, Magnussen, Massa, Juncadella and Kobayashi currently circulating.

10:26 Once again, we spoke to soon, as Juncadella and Kobayashi both come in. Last time around, Massa, Magnussen and Rosberg all lapped within a second of each other.

10:30 Magnussen has impressed so far at Jerez and the man himself thinks 2014 is not a bad time to be joining the F1 grid:

"I wouldn't say it is an advantage being a rookie. But it is not as big a disadvantage as in other years.

"I think it is the right season, a good season, to come in. Because this car is so different the driving is going to be different, and everyone will have to learn that again.

"But I am a rookie, I will still have a lot to learn that other drivers know very well. So working with an F1 team and in a race weekend, all these things I'm going to have to learn.

"I'm not underestimating anything, but I think it's a good year to come in as a rookie."

10:31 Magnussen and Massa have pitted, so guess who is left on track? Yes, it's Rosberg, who has just completed his 61st lap of the day.

10:33 Alonso heads out. Ferrari seems to be following quite a different programme to the Mercedes teams, but it would be nice to see what laptime he could do.

10:38 Alonso in and out, Sutil also takes the Sauber onto the circuit.

10:40 Alonso brings the Ferrari back in again. Kobayashi heads out for Caterham. Rosberg has now completed 66 laps and has just set a best first sector after a quick stop.

10:42 It's a 1m37.877s for Rosberg. Not quite his best, but still faster than anyone else has done today.

10:43 But this time he does go faster - 1m37.310 - as he closes on Sutil.

10:46 Rosberg passes Sutil and Juncadella heads out.

10:47 Magnussen has gone out again in the McLaren MP4-29.

10:49 Juncadella improves to 1m41.400s, but remains fifth.

10:50 The Force India improves again, now down to 1m41.132s. Rosberg is currently in the 1m38s, Magnussen in the 1m39s.

10:53 Are you still sore over F1's adoption of double points for the season finale? (AUTOSPORT is)

Yesterday NASCAR went a fair few steps further than F1 when it announced that its title fights would now come down to a single winner-takes-all race at the end of the year.

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We've just opened a debate about the new format on the AUTOSPORT Facebook page, so feel free to comment.

10:56 Juncadella does a 1m41.133s and a 1m41.261s to follow up his 1m41.132s. Now that is consistent!

10:57 And Juncadella has a nice slide out of the last corner. The time is still a 1m41.780s.

10:58 Rosberg, back in the 1m37s, is closing on Magnussen.

11:01 OK, we realise we may be tempting fate, but...We're now at midday local time, after three hours of running, and we haven't had a red flag. Given how much trouble some of the teams have had here, and how tricky the conditions are, that's a good effort.

11:02 Rosberg lowers his best mark once again, 1m36.951s. He's opening out that gap over the rest and has now done 79 laps.

11:08 Rosberg still lapping in the 1m37s. We've now lost count of how many laps he has done that are quicker than Magnussen's 1m38.391s effort.

11:10 The fastest five runners are now out on track. Will Alonso set a new PB? It's a long time since he did his 1m39.999s.

11:12 Magnussen brings the McLaren back in, and Massa pits the Williams.

11:12 Sutil has gone out so we now have four cars on rack.

11:13 Alonso does indeed go faster, 1m39.477s, but is still behind the three Mercedes-powered cars.

11:16 Alonso is now on the inters, but is lapping considerably slower than Rosberg at the moment. Juncadella's consistency in the Force India is still impressive.

11:19 Rosberg is currently in the 1m38s, Alonso in the 1m40s, and Juncadella in the 1m41s. Sutil is still out there, but is doing 1m44s - the Sauber has seemed to lack pace this week.

11:21 Sauber has been having trouble with its braking system at Jerez, which could explain its laptimes. Better for the drivers to put on mileage at a slower pace than risk throwing it off (as Gutierrez did on day two).

11:22 Rosberg pits. He has now completed an impressive 91 laps. The next best is Magnussen's McLaren on 43.

11:27 Kobayashi has gone out, so we have Caterham, Sauber and Ferrari circulating at the moment.

11:28 Juncadella goes out, Kobayashi comes back in.

11:30 GARY ANDERSON, whose Formula 1 design career including the race-winning Jordan and Stewart cars of the 1990s, is part of AUTOSPORT's technical expert team and has been writing analysis pieces and features for us all week at Jerez.

In his Thursday night round-up, he tackled topics including why the Ferrari sounds different on downchanges to its rivals, which cars are already looking sharpest from trackside, and Red Bull and Renault's prospects of a quick recovery.

11:30 And they swap, the Caterham returning to the circuit and the Force India pitting.

11:33 And the track suddenly seems quiet, with just Kobayashi lapping in the Caterham.

11:37 Kobayashi pits, but goes straight back out again.

11:40 Alonso's Ferrari now joins Kobayashi.

11:42 Kobayashi pits, but Massa takes the Williams out. The FW36 has had a pretty good week so far.

11:45 Alonso heads out on an otherwise clear track and duly hits the front with a 1m35.334s, set on inters.

11:48 Alonso stays out for the fourth lap of this run, but he's all alone. We suspect other teams may be breaking for unofficial lunch.

11:49 Mercedes confirms our suspicions:

@MercedesAMGF1: "Time for a well-earned break; would somebody please get @nico_rosberg a plate?!"

11:49 Does this mean Kamui has to watch as his Caterham crew eat?

@CaterhamF1: "Lunchtime on day 4 in Jerez. So far we have completed 41 laps with Kamui in the car & we're keeping him strapped in so we can add to that..."

11:56 As Alonso clocks up the laps, here is day three pacesetter Kevin Magnussen on his and McLaren's goals for the final day at Jerez:

"I'm sure there is a lot of performance to come. That will never stop - in F1 it never does - but I'm sure we'll improve this week too.

"The important thing is to get a good understanding of where to improve coming away from here."

The Dane was clearly enjoying himself this morning, regularly playing with oversteer in the wet conditions.

12:01 Alonso, who hit a half century of laps just before midday, has company in the form of Caterham's Kamui Kobayashi.

12:02 Magnussen - himself nearing the 50-lap mark - heads out.

12:08 Race run done for Nico Rosberg, and he's handing over driving duties for the afternoon:

@nico_rosberg: "Cool, day 4 of testing & already completed a full race practice. Will now hand over the car to @lewishamilton."

12:13 More changes afoot at McLaren, here's JONATHAN NOBLE's story on the latest personnel moves:

McLaren reshuffles its aero department

12:13 That change, incidentally, is to even up mileage.

Rosberg was able to rack up 91 laps this morning, to add to his 97 from day two.

Hamilton only managed 18 before suffering a front wing failure on day one, and then added 62 yesterday.

12:14 Magnussen pits, but Alonso is still out. A very good run this for the Ferrari man, who hasn't dropped below the 1m37/38s bracket.

12:21 Here's the full report from this morning at Jerez, as Fernando Alonso and Ferrari go top but Mercedes rolls on and on and on:

Jerez test day four morning report and results

12:22 Alonso finally pits, but he doesn't box - he comes straight through and to the end of the pitlane for a practice start. It's not great, but he is away once more.

12:23 Alonso clearly on it - he gets sideways coming into the pitlane. It's another straight-through job, and he rejoins courtesy of another practice start.

12:26 As we move into the afternoon, here is a quick rundown of the order (and lap count) so far on the final day:

1. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 1m35.334s, 64 laps
2. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 1m36.951s, 91 laps
3. Kevin Magnussen (McLaren-Mercedes) 1m38.391s, 49 laps
4. Felipe Massa (Williams-Mercedes) 1m39.256s, 34 laps
5. Daniel Juncadella (Force India-Mercedes) 1m41.132s, 32 laps
6. Kamui Kobayashi (Caterham-Renault) 1m43.193s, 45 laps
7. Daniil Kvyat (Toro Rosso-Renault) 1m44.016s, 8 laps
8. Adrian Sutil (Sauber-Ferrari) 1m44.234s, 43 laps
9. Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull-Renault) 1m45.374s, 7 laps
10. Jules Bianchi (Marussia-Ferrari) 1m48.192s, 5 laps

12:31 Quick round-up of the fourth and final day of Jerez testing so far:

* Rosberg runs first race simulation of 2014
* Alonso and Ferrari top timesheets at midday
* Kobayashi gets his first run in the Caterham CT05
* Bianchi likewise heads out in the Marussia MR03 for the first time
* Red Bull and Toro Rosso complete just a handful of laps
* Juncadella impresses with his first run in Force India

12:32 EDD STRAW, down with the fans at the final chicane, says that Alonso has been keeping the crowd entertained.

Some spectacular sliding in the right-left-right section drew enthusiastic applause, apparently.

12:37 While Red Bull and Toro Rosso have racked up a handful of laps (15 to be precise), one Renault-powered team is at least clocking up the laps:

@CaterhamF1: "45 laps now for @kamui_kobayashi who continues to pound round, adding to his mileage.

Don't tell him, but there's katsu curry for lunch...."

12:38 Red Bull calls time on its troubled Jerez test:

@redbullracing: "We've finished testing for the day. All focus now shifts to Bahrain. Full update to come shortly."

12:41 Here was Vettel speaking before pre-season kicked off...

"The bigger the changes the more time it takes for everyone – drivers, engineers, people in the factory – to adapt, so we will probably see more retirements than we are used to.

"We understood the cars more in the past and now everything is new, so I think mistakes will happen for everyone.

"We have been on an incredible run and we will try to do it again to make it five (titles in a row), but at the moment expectations are low, as we don't know what's coming.

"We've had a good run but now it's a blank sheet of paper, so we will have to wait and see."

12:44 Magnussen sets a new personal best, but stays third, just as Alonso lights up the timing screens by going fastest of all in sector one...

12:46 Alonso pits, but Magnussen improves once again.

He's now broken through the 1m38s barrier, moving to within 2.5s of today's benchmark.

12:49 Six consecutive personal bests now from Magnussen, who has shaved a few tenths of a second off every time he has crossed the line. Impressive stuff.

His latest effort is a 1m37.391s, which moves him onto the tail of Nico Rosberg's Mercedes.

12:51 SAM TREMAYNE spent the morning at the trackside with GARY ANDERSON getting some hints of how the individual cars are handling as the mileage becomes more serious. Here's what they discovered:

Trackside analysis: Mercedes rises early

12:52 Magnussen brings that impressive run to a close, and we have quiet on circuit.

12:58 Fernando Alonso heads for lunch, and is duly mobbed by hundreds of Spanish fans on the short walk between the team's garage and its hospitality unit.

13:02 The silence is broken by Kamui Kobayashi, who heads out in the Caterham CT05.

It's been a good day so far for driver and team, with 51 laps already on the board.

13:05 Here is the full story on Red Bull's early exit after a troubled Jerez test:

Red Bull ends Jerez test early

13:10 Our colleagues at LAT captured this from one of Daniel Ricciardo's early laps.

The bright orange spark in the top left corner isn't a camera glitch - it is something flying off the back of the RB10.

13:13 Magnussen and Massa head out for McLaren and Williams respectively.

13:14 Incidentally, today is already the busiest day at Jerez.

On day one, a collective 93 laps were completed. That rose to 331 and then 340 on days two and three respectively.

Just past the halfway mark of day four, we're already past 400 and counting.

13:16 Here's another afternoon statistic: Kamui Kobayashi, with 53 laps completed, has racked up more mileage today than every Renault-powered team managed across the opening three days of this first pre-season test.

13:19 Massa is up to speed quickly, posting a new personal best - a 1m39.163s - on his second flyer.

He doesn't stop there either - next time round is a 1m38.532s.

13:22 Sutil improves too, but it is still only a 1m42.549s.

13:24 And two more improvements. Magnussen goes second with 1m35.769s and Massa improves again, to 1m38.239s.

13:25 More improvements, and this time at the top of the timesheets.

Magnussen deposes Alonso with a 1m34.084s. Will the Dane top his first two days as a McLaren driver?

13:27 Into the 1m33s now for Magnussen, leaving him almost 1.5s clear of Alonso.

Scratch that, he's 1.7s clear now as he dips down to a 1m33.619s next time around.

13:30 Magnussen set those times on the special Jerez compound.

Bianchi heads out for Marussia shortly after the Dane crosses the line, but the MR03 is shod with wet tyres.

Daniel Juncadella has also headed out on track.

13:31 Times tumbling here.

Magnussen improves to a 1m33.350s, while Juncadella slots into third with a 1m36.300s.

13:33 Juncadella, on the super soft tyre, has a massive wobble heading out of the final hairpin.

He shakes off the bout of oversteer however and crosses the line in 1m33.119s, sending Force India to the top of the timesheets.

13:36 Interesting battle this. Juncadella and Magnussen are on opposite sides of the track, but they keep trading blows.

The latter, on the special Jerez compound rather than super softs, wrests back the advantage with the day's first sub-1m33s lap.

Juncadella has pace in reserve though, and stops the clock at 1m31.719s next time around.

13:38 Kobayashi, Sutil and now Massa have all headed out.

13:39 While a dry line has gradually emerged, the track remains quite damp in places. It's likely to stay that way too, at least while temperatures remain below 14 degrees C.

13:41 Bianchi heads back out, this time on inters. Sutil is on mediums, Massa on the Jerez compound. It has probably just moved decisively into slick territory.

13:44 Massa improves, but we're not sure his 1m36.783s should count as our scouts tell us he cut the chicane...

13:45 Bianchi jumps from 10th to sixth after a 1m40.966s.

13:46 Which leaves Red Bull rooted to the bottom of the timesheets.

13:47 More breaking news from the paddock: the FIA has been in contact with the teams over some concerns it has about the 2014 noses (and no, unfortunately, those concerns are not to do with the appearance). Read more here.

And if you want a thorough explanation of how some subtle regulation tweaks caused such a significant change to the appearance of the cars for this year, check out this piece from @ScarbsF1:

F1 2014 tech: aero controversy explained

13:50 Red Bull is also bottom of today's lap count:

1. Daniel Juncadella (Force India-Mercedes) 1m31.719s, 45 laps
2. Kevin Magnussen (McLaren-Mercedes) 1m32.260s, 82 laps
3. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 1m35.334s, 71 laps
4. Felipe Massa (Williams-Mercedes) 1m36.069s, 48 laps
5. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 1m36.951s, 91 laps
6. Jules Bianchi (Marussia-Ferrari) 1m40.966s, 10 laps
7. Adrian Sutil (Sauber-Ferrari) 1m42.549s, 51 laps
8. Kamui Kobayashi (Caterham-Renault) 1m43.193s, 54 laps
9. Daniil Kvyat (Toro Rosso-Renault) 1m44.016s, 8 laps
10. Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull-Renault) 1m45.374s, 7 laps

13:51 We should shortly have another name to add to that list, as Lewis Hamilton heads out for Mercedes.

If you missed it earlier (see 1208), the Briton is taking over from Rosberg in order to balance mileage between the two men.

13:52 Hamilton has company on his first lap of the day, as Alonso rejoins for Ferrari.

13:55 Hamilton's first effort, a 1m40.227s, moves him up to sixth.

13:56 A useful comparison from Mercedes:

@MercedesAMGF1: "For those asking about comparative driver mileage: @nico_rosberg has done 188 laps so far this week, @LewisHamilton has 80."

14:03 On the sixth timed lap of this current run, Alonso improves to a 1m34.331s but stays third.

14:06 Alonso is tucked into Sutil's slipstream down the main straight, and duly dives down the inside under braking for Turn 1.

The German still improved that lap though, moving into sixth and above Hamilton - who is also swarming over the back of the Sauber. Hamilton executes a move along the back straight.

14:07 More improvements for Alonso, as consecutive bests take him down to a 1m32.665s, now within one second of the outright pace.

14:08 Magnussen and Juncadella have both headed out for their respective teams.

14:09 Alonso, now on the 10th lap of this medium-shod run, jumps to second with a 1m32.132s.

14:10 Into fourth now for Hamilton, who jumps ahead of team-mate Rosberg by stopping the clock on a 1m36.053s.

14:11 Alonso hits the front, setting a new benchmark of 1m31.551s.

Moments later Juncadella - again on the super softs - comes with 0.027s of demoting him.

14:17 More back and forth between Alonso and Juncadella.

The latter hits the front with a low 1m31s, shortly before having to pick off Hamilton's Mercedes.

Alonso responds though, and moves back to the front with a 1m31.804s.

Moments later, Magnussen and Massa both improve, pushing Hamilton down to fifth.

14:18 Red flag - we have a Sauber in the gravel.

14:20 Sutil has gone off backwards at the final chicane.

14:23 The German crashed yesterday, losing control of the rear of his C33 at Turn 7.

He later took the blame for the accident.

14:27 Sutil's C33 is back in pitlane, which means we should restart shortly.

14:28 Very shortly. Back to green.

14:29 Incidentally, that red came as Alonso moved onto the 17th lap of a stint on mediums, which featured several improvements and yielded the fastest time so far today. He had just set that time - a 1m30.861s - when Sutil went off.

14:31 Marussia out on super softs. Bianchi needs to find around 2.5s to ensure Red Bull finishes bottom of the pile after four days at Jerez.

14:34 Juncadella, Massa, Magnussen and Hamilton are all out.

14:37 Green paint all over the timesheets as Juncadella, Massa and Hamilton all improve.

14:40 Improvements again next time round, headlined by Juncadella, who moves back to the top with a 1m30.437s set on the hard compound.

Massa jumps up into second, while Hamilton leapfrogs Magnussen to sit fourth.

The latter duo are on mediums.

14:41 His spell doesn't last long though, as Massa sets two laps in the sub 1m30s bracket to put Williams on top.

14:44 We're definitely into proper running and mileage now, which means tumbling laptimes and - something not entirely expected on day one - traffic.

Hamilton was under pressure from Juncadella earlier, eventually surrendering position to the Spaniard down the back straight.

14:50 Alonso hits the front once more, but for all of thirty seconds, as Massa responds to depose his former Ferrari team-mate with a 1m29.023s.

14:52 We have a second red of the afternoon.

14:53 Massa, Alonso, Hamilton and Magnussen were all out on track. We're not sure which of that quartet has prompted this stoppage.

14:53 It's Magnussen. The Dane is parked at the chicane.

14:56 Scratch that, he's facing the wrong way. Looks like he's lost the rear of the MP4-29 coming through the left-hander. His car has rotated 180 degrees but is still on the asphalt, which means no damage.

14:56 Magnussen gestures that he's OK to the arriving McLaren crew, one of whom gives him a conciliatory pat on the back. Given the proximity to the pitlane, this shouldn't take too long.

15:01 Which is a good time to given you a rundown of the order and lap count with one hour remaining of the final day:

1. Massa (Williams-Mercedes) 1m29.023s, 65 laps
2. Alonso (Ferrari) 1m29.290s, 96 laps
3. Juncadella (Force India-Mercedes) 1m30.437s, 63 laps
4. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m30.835s, 30 laps
5. Magnussen (McLaren-Mercedes) 1m31.804s, 102 laps
6. Rosberg (Mercedes) 1m36.951s, 91 laps
7. Sutil (Sauber-Ferrari) 1m39.941s, 57 laps
8. Bianchi (Marussia-Ferrari) 1m40.966s, 14 laps
9. Kobayashi (Caterham-Renault) 1m43.193s, 54 laps
10. Kvyat (Toro Rosso-Renault) 1m44.016s, 8 laps
11. Ricciardo (Red Bull-Renault) 1m45.374s, 7 laps

15:03 The MP4-29 is back and being unloaded below our spot in the media centre. We're back to green for the final hour of this final day at Jerez.

15:07 Unsurprisingly there's a queue of cars waiting to rejoin. Massa, Juncadella, Sutil and Bianchi all head out immediately.

15:10 Red Bull will end the test at the foot of the timesheets for the week - Bianchi comes round in a 1m37.699s on his first flyer of this final hour.

The RB10's best? A 1m38.320s on day two.

15:15 Little wonder, given that last statistic, that Daniel Ricciardo was the subject of such a media scrum earlier this afternoon.

The Australian insists there is no need to panic however, saying the team still "has time on our side".

15:16 Bianchi improves again, jumping up to sixth after registering a 1m35.589s.

15:22 Massa, Alonso and Hamilton - all three of whom have had long runs interrupted by red flags - are our three men currently out on circuit.

15:25 Practice starts for Massa, which means Magnussen has to wait a few seconds before being released onto the circuit.

15:30 So, 35 minutes to run of the first pre-season test of 2014. Just how revealing has the test been? How chronic are Red Bull and Renault's troubles? And just how excited should Mercedes be?

We'll be answering all such concerns over the next few days, including 10 things we have learned from Jerez, insight into what has been a dream test for Mercedes, and a reflection on the test in general from AUTOSPORT technical guru Gary Anderson.

15:36 Magnussen vaults Hamilton with a 1m30.806s - just the 16 thousandths of a second to choose between them then.

15:37 Alonso meanwhile is up to 113 laps for the day - 20 more than the entire field managed just 72 hours ago.

15:42 Massa goes purple in sector two, but AUTOSPORT's excitement is short-lived: he's around half a second slower than his current benchmark.

15:46 Nice that the weather is keeping things interesting here. Track temperature has just shot up, the dry line has spread and times continue to fall.

Felipe Massa once again leads proceedings, improving upon his own best to set a 1m28.521s.

15:47 As if to prove the point, Toro Rosso re-emerges for the final 15 minutes. Rookie Daniil Kvyat put in seven laps this morning, but hasn't run since.

15:48 Ah. Red flag - it couldn't be, could it?

15:48 Magnussen appears to have gone off in the McLaren.

15:48 And the Toro Rosso has stopped!

15:50 It looks like Magnussen has lost it exiting Turn 10, but the close proximity of the Toro Rosso indicates Kvyat may have been involved. No confirmation yet.

15:52 Will there be any more running? The McLaren looks like it has made it as far as the barrier.

15:57 Hamilton takes the Merc out into the pitlane and stops after just a few metres. Odd as we've still got a red flag. People are suggesting it might be an aero test, but that seems weird. There was, however, some flo-vis on the sidepod.

15:58 Just over two minutes left, so that's probably it as far as cars running on-track is concerned.

16:03 So, here's who has achieved what today:

1 Massa (Williams) 1m28.229s, 86 laps
2 Alonso (Ferrari) 1m29.145s, 115 laps
3 Juncadella (Force India) 1m29.457s, 81 laps
4 Magnussen (McLaren) 1m30.806s, 110 laps
5 Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m30.822s, 41 laps
6 Bianchi (Marussia) 1m32.222s, 25 laps
7 Sutil (Sauber) 1m36.571s, 69 laps
8 Rosberg (Mercedes) 1m36.951s 91 laps
9 Kobayashi (Caterham) 1m43.193s, 54 laps
10 Kvyat (Toro Rosso) 1m44.016s, 9 laps
11 Ricciardo (Red Bull) 1m45.374s, 7 laps

16:05 Well, the Toro Rosso and McLaren are being carried away and the teams have already started packing up.

16:07 There will be more details of exactly what happened there on AUTOSPORT later this afternoon.

Thank you for joining us on AUTOSPORT Live all week - in record numbers too.

The next Live action on the site will be Race Centre Live coverage of Rally Sweden on Thursday-Saturday next week, and the Formula 1 fraternity will no doubt have an eye on that event given Robert Kubica's stunning Monte Carlo performance.

AUTOSPORT F1 Live will be back for the second week of 2014 testing in Bahrain on February 19.

And keep an eye on the site over the weekend for more analysis features from this test.

FASTEST TIMES

P	Driver	Team	Time
1	Massa	Williams-Mercedes	1m28.229s
2	Alonso	Ferrari	1m29.145s +0.916
3	Juncadella	Force India-Mercedes	1m29.457s +1.228
4	Magnussen	McLaren-Mercedes	1m30.806s +2.577
5	Hamilton	Mercedes	1m30.822s +2.593
6	Bianchi	Marussia-Ferrari	1m32.222s +3.993
7	Sutil	Sauber-Ferrari	1m36.571s +8.342
8	Rosberg	Mercedes	1m36.951s +8.722
9	Kobayashi	Caterham-Renault	1m43.193s +14.964
10	Kvyat	Toro Rosso-Renault	1m44.016s +15.787
11	Ricciardo	Red Bull-Renault	1m45.374s +17.145

All timing unofficial. Updated: 15:50 GMT

OVERVIEW	DAY FOUR

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Hack (08:01)

The final day in Jerez...

Victor_RO (08:01) Good morning. :wave:

virago496 (08:02) :wave:

virago496 (08:02) strange, live forum didn't load first time...

spacedmanspliff (08:03) :smoking:

Welsh (08:03) :wave:

Richard T (08:04) Morning :wave:

Jack McGhee (08:04) :wave:

virago496 (08:04) mercedes is covering all their bases, just in case we get a 24 hour race!

virago496 (08:04) Mercedes is covering all their bases, just in case we get a 24 hour race!

virago496 (08:04) oops

ackyson (08:06) good morning all :wave:

swerved (08:07) Forgot about Kamui making his return today, assuming the Caterham gets out of the garage.

swerved (08:07) Morning btw !

Jack McGhee (08:10) Kinda worried if the Renault doesn't perform very well that Kobayashi may get shafted this year.

Victor_RO (08:11) I'd like to see someone rolling up in the paddock at a F1 test session, with a couple of unmarked transporters, and then roll out something under covers, prepare it in a locked garage, then while the F1 teams do their work... drive that something out on the track, and that something turns out to be a 919 Hybrid, or a 2014-spec R18, or a TS040.

Ellios (08:13) :clap:

swerved (08:14) We'll see Jack, personally i think this 20 weeks to fix Renaults engine is a bit wide of the mark but in truth who knows ? I was wondering whether he'd bin it by being over excited :lol:

Victor_RO (08:14) Yes, I'd like to see a WEC LMP1 manufacturer trolling the F1 guys once.

swerved (08:15) Well Bernie said if they wanted racing "like this" they should go to Le Mans Victor

Richard T (08:15) Haha Victor :lol:

swerved (08:15) Hold your breath, a TR has gone out.

Jack McGhee (08:18) Awesome video -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxOl0b8K6...

Victor_RO (08:20) Really looking forward to going down to Arnage during night qualifying to see the Vettes in action there.

Jack McGhee (08:21) They do sound beastly

Victor_RO (08:23) They shake the ground under your feet when they rumble past. :love:

Victor_RO (08:24) Even with 1.5 l less engine than the GT1s.

Victor_RO (08:26) I wonder... what if instead of the SLS, we had something like a full-blooded GTE car as the F1 Safety Car?

Jack McGhee (08:26) I would take a hand-job from Abu Hamza to drive these though ... lovely :

http://goo.gl/DYTdJE

Welsh (08:26) hmm yeah using a lemans car as an f1 safety car.

Victor_RO (08:29) Nah, that McLaren is even more unreliable than the Renault-powered 2014 F1 cars. :lol:

Victor_RO (08:29) If they insist on having a Merc as the SC, let's have a SLS GT3.

swerved (08:31) :lol:

wingwalker (08:36) what's the weather forecast?

Welsh (08:37) kobayashi already overtaking in the pit lane

Welsh (08:38) UKIP weather forecast: Sutil applied moisturiser to his hands = intermittent showers all day

NapsterEps (08:40) What`s the deal with the safety car do Mercedes have e contract with FIA or they give them the SLS free.

Jack McGhee (08:41) Yes, it is advertising.

Razgreez (08:41) likely view it as great advertising and provide the cars
for free

NapsterEps (08:42) I want to see as a safety car Ferrari La Ferrari or Mclaren F1. Now the SLS will have the only proper engine on the grid.

Razgreez (08:43) i'd have beaten jack to that post but the latency due to my posting from the southern tip of africa foiled that

Razgreez (08:43) don't forget the medical car

wingwalker (08:44) booo, so little meaningful running probably

NapsterEps (08:47) Which team do you support guys?

AlexLabrow (08:50) they made a mistake in the last update. than*

AlexLabrow (08:50) :lol:

ackyson (08:50) lewis kimmi alonso :drunk:

Victor_RO (08:50) Toyota and Porsche.

Razgreez (08:51) once when i when i was knee high to a grasshopper an old man explained to me the romantic story of "the legend of the silver arrows" and i've supported mercedes in all forms of racing ever since

ackyson (08:51) Harley Davidson Triumph :lol:

AlexLabrow (08:51) RBR. at least we'll get more action today from them.

Richard T (08:51) Ferrari and both their drivers :clap:

Razgreez (08:51) they make loads of mistakes and then fix them. on the first day of testing they had it up that lewis would be driving nico

NapsterEps (08:52)

ackyson (08:53) come on kobiachi :love:

Richard T (08:53) And yes I'm with Victor in supporting Toyota and Porsche in WEC

Diablobb81 (08:54) lol, brake lights on F1 cars. When will they introduce blinkers?

NapsterEps (08:55) And from how long do you follow F1.

jonpollak (08:55) Good Morning Race Fans :wave:

NapsterEps (08:55) :wave:

Diablobb81 (08:56) 20+ years but i'll be damned if i remember them.

jonpollak (08:57) I follow F1 since yesterday but I am an expert

Welsh (08:57) ahhh then I am an F1 Professional.

Diablobb81 (08:58) and your expertise can tell me if they had brake lights or will i just get a nice gif?

Victor_RO (08:58) First year when I can clearly remember seeing a F1 race on TV was '96.

virago496 (08:59) I went to that race Victor :lol:

Victor_RO (08:59) Either a mid-afternoon re-run or highlights of Damon Hill winning the title in Japan.

Welsh (09:00) red lights are wet weather warning lights - a guide to let a driver behind a car know another car is ahead of him. sort of fog light thing.

jonpollak (09:00) Rain lights ya mean?

Razgreez (09:01) poor visibility lights

Welsh (09:01) If you want to catch an f1 driver, just wear a flashing red light on your derriere and he will follow you everywhere.

Razgreez (09:01) been following F1 since 93

virago496 (09:03) as opposed to a coloured handkerchief welsh?

Diablobb81 (09:03) from this year the red light will also activate when the driver is braking so that the guy behind isn't surprised. seriously

Jack McGhee (09:04) ... what?

NapsterEps (09:05) I can`t believe it too. It can`t be true

RoutariEnjinu (09:05) Anyone got the Bahrain testing dates to hand/in head?

Richard T (09:05) "Torque reduction lights" will be used when a driver releases his throttle pedal so that the driver behind won't hit him. If the driver in front is saving fuel on the straight

Richard T (09:06) True story

Diablobb81 (09:06) http://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/51...

Razgreez (09:06) you no longer need jedi reflexes to be an F1 driver

NapsterEps (09:06) 19 - 22 February and 27 February -2 March

jonpollak (09:07) Diabolical.

NapsterEps (09:07) Why not put a horn in it to prevent accidents

Jack McGhee (09:07) Why would someone release the throttle on a straight though?

study (09:07) massa :clap:

alfa1 (09:08) Trivia: Massa has never (before now) driven for an English speaking team, during his whole motorsport career.

Richard T (09:08) Save fuel

jonpollak (09:08) Sounds like an idea my wife developed

Jack McGhee (09:08) This is also the first time Massa has not driven with a Ferrari engine in F1, this is his first change.

Jack McGhee (09:09) If you are off the throttle on the straights to save fuel ... well, surely that is a sign your race is f**ked anyway?

Welsh (09:10) Someone needs to take Massa to a fish n chip shop - that would open his eyes to English food.

jonpollak (09:10) Massa having a go at Engish food :lol:

Jack McGhee (09:10) and close them again, once the arteries seize up.

jonpollak (09:11) He's not wrong

jonpollak (09:11) Echo

Diablobb81 (09:11) or a kidney pie. Wtf is wrong with these people...

virago496 (09:12) the german article literally says that when energy recovery begins the light will come on

Welsh (09:12) Curry n chips - and I do love a big sausage too.

Jack McGhee (09:12) Kidney pie ... jesus, nothing worse.

Richard T (09:12) Probably they will release the pedal X-meters before braking

jonpollak (09:13) Yuck

Jack McGhee (09:13) A good old fashioned English Makanwalla with Pilau rice and some Naan should change his opinion.

RoutariEnjinu (09:13) Frank Parker Steak and Red Wine pie :clap:

Jamiednm (09:14) Good shout, Jack

virago496 (09:14) goes against your instincts tho, Richard, for years engineers have been yelling at them to reduce the gap between coming of the throttle and braking

virago496 (09:16) how 'bout some bacon, guys?

Richard T (09:16) I know..

slideways (09:16) bangers and mash ftw onion and gravy if you are lucky

Welsh (09:16) Imagine driver an f1 car whilst eating food.

Victor_RO (09:18) Did someone say bacon?

slideways (09:19) fia announces mandatory food delivery system

Welsh (09:19) I would rather English food than that crap that Alonso posted the other day. Looked like something the dog threw up.

Victor_RO (09:19) With mandatory food being bacon?

virago496 (09:19) they have so many things to do in the beside driving, welsh, i'm sure they'd manage...

wingwalker (09:19) mmmm, breafast!

slideways (09:20) mmmm bacon

virago496 (09:21) so why is Mr. colado not in here? so we could grill him....

wingwalker (09:21) btw, english way of preparing bacon (as presented by ozzy osbourne in 'decline of western civilization part II') is just wrong.

virago496 (09:21) with bacon

Richard T (09:21) Will drivers launch off the grid in 2nd gear?

virago496 (09:22) english way of preparing any food is wrong, they still keep doing it tho

Welsh (09:22) You do it slowly (cooking bacon) and it must be with brown sauce, not that red sissie rubbish.

Jack McGhee (09:22) how does he prepare it wingwalker?

virago496 (09:23) yes, Richard, they get a splitter gearbox like i have on my scania

Welsh (09:23) Nothing beats smokey bacon egg brown bread sandwich with brown sauce.

RoutariEnjinu (09:24) Did Mag's times disappear for anyone else?

virago496 (09:24) hewlett packard brown sauce, tastes like printer ink too

wingwalker (09:24) i think he took the clices and cooked it like they were potatoes. easily the most disturbing thing in the entire film.

wingwalker (09:25) the entire scene is pure gold though, youtube it

virago496 (09:25) next thing you tell me you like Richmond sausages too

wingwalker (09:26) F1 on the biggest turn and possibly controversy in years and look at us :lol:

virago496 (09:27) nothing new there :lol:

Jack McGhee (09:27) Cooks them like potatoes? ... You can cook potatoes in all sorts of ways? He mashes his bacon? :well:

RoutariEnjinu (09:27) I wish Autosport had the technical know-how to add lap count to the times screen.

Welsh (09:28) oh Lincolnshire sausages are the best, with white bread and baked beans - lush

antrock (09:28) :lol:

Jack McGhee (09:29) baked beans, urgh, like warmed up diarrhea.

ackyson (09:29) they used to have the laps on there :blush:

Andy35 (09:29) Morning ! Interesting to hear they will not be hitting the rev limiter as much according to Sutil. That should help passing on the long straights.

virago496 (09:29) welsh : http://www.wivestownhallconnection.com/2...

slideways (09:30) I'm guess there's a lack of any timing data. I mean following and calculating it manually? Outrageous

Richard T (09:30) I have never been to england.. but it seems like i have to bring my own brekkie when i get there :blush:

virago496 (09:31) hey Andy, stop talking racing, we're still on breakfast here

slideways (09:31) A full English breakfast is wonderful, just ask if you can cook it yourself.

virago496 (09:32) Wise man Richard, I did too, but it hasn't lasted me 13 years

Richard T (09:32) I actually had English breakfast tea this morning and it was very good

Richard T (09:32)

Jack McGhee (09:33) English breakfast tea ... that's not tea that tastes like english breakfast is it?

Jamiednm (09:34) An English breakfast is the same as an American breakfast, really.

Richard T (09:34) Hmm...

Jamiednm (09:34) Bacon and Eggs...

Welsh (09:35) I THINK NOT!

Jack McGhee (09:35) What is an American breakfast? Isn't it something like pancakes with bacon and cream and syrup and what-not

Jack McGhee (09:35) A full english is not just bacon and eggs

RoutariEnjinu (09:35) Pancakes with HFCS Syrup, bacon, sugar, cheese and diabetes

RoutariEnjinu (09:35) Frank Parker black pepper sausages :love:

virago496 (09:36) food fight?

Jamiednm (09:36) I love hash brown and scrambled eggs for Breakfast when I'm in America. The has brown is fluffy, unlike the greasy cardboard you get a Maccies

Jack McGhee (09:37) I'll let you lot into a little secret .... Eggy bread (look it up) with canadian maple syrup and some bacon .... best thing ever.

Razgreez (09:37) i need to pop to the canteen for a bite all of a sudden

Jack McGhee (09:37) Yea, I might grab a snack too

ackyson (09:37) sausages, bacon, eggs, fried bread, black pudding, tin tomatoes, mushrooms, and hash browns brown sauce. that's a full English. :up:

virago496 (09:38) I agree with Jack, eggy bread, thats something i can sink my teeth onto

Richard T (09:38) I'll go hit the gym.. Peace! :wave:

Welsh (09:39) meanwhile, it looks as if the teams have found reliability this morning.

Jamiednm (09:39) And a cup of tea, Acky?

Andy35 (09:39) Good point Virago !

There is some good english food but there is a lot of dross unfortunately.

When people come over from France, hit Dover and then stop for lunch at Harvester it is no wonder they get a bad impression.

virago496 (09:39) all that food getting to ya, Richard :lol:

Jamiednm (09:40) Same everywhere, I've never been impressed with the food in France.

virago496 (09:40) and harvester is better than most motorway services

Richard T (09:40) I get anxiety

Jack McGhee (09:41) Yea, I found the food in France, Italy and Spain waaaaay over-rated. ... go to central europe and its closer to british food.

virago496 (09:41) comes from driving fast Richard

Slackbladder (09:41) Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener 8 mins
Either a bad paint job or some serious overheating under the RB cover. Follow AMuS live: http://ams.to/f1live pic.twitter.com/BpNRqgzYfL

Slackbladder (09:42) Overheating when pootling around at low revs in the wet?? that's very very bad.

virago496 (09:42) one rule about food, if its fresh, most of it is brilliant

Jack McGhee (09:42) Thats a good rule of thumb virago

Jack McGhee (09:43) except for shelled seafood, I'd happily drop-kick that crap back into the ocean.

virago496 (09:44) i've eaten a wonderful simple french stick with some local cheese and it was better than anything rick stein would serve me

virago496 (09:45) i could fancy a brie and bacon stick right about now

Jamiednm (09:45) My Mum's Steak and Chips is the best in the world

Fudce (09:46) Morning chaps

Jack McGhee (09:47) Morning

Welsh (09:47) :wave:

spacedmanspliff (09:47) Sounds good Jamiednm - When are we getting an invite?

virago496 (09:47) hiya Fudce

virago496 (09:48) wow, within two hours the red bull has set a time

Welsh (09:49) Great F1 Bake Off 2014 - sad that Renault burnt their buns

virago496 (09:49) they' need the next six hours to cool it down no doubt

Jamiednm (09:50) It's exclusive, spaced. Family only!

Razgreez (09:52) family only... that can be "arranged"

virago496 (09:53) they really have been out.. http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilde...

Jamiednm (09:54) Haha Raz!

Jack McGhee (09:55) Nico has two helmets? He is pictured with both his yellow one and his black one in that set.

Razgreez (09:57) Seb has a different/new helmet for almost every race so nico is rather conservative by that standard

virago496 (09:57) split personality i bet

spacedmanspliff (09:58) :cry:

Jamiednm (09:59) When's the Bahrain test?

Welsh (10:00) Tesco is now selling McLaren F1 cars https://twitter.com/RushMovieUK/status/4...

NapsterEps (10:00) 19-21 february and 27 february to 2 march

NapsterEps (10:00) sorry 19-22 february

Andy35 (10:00) End of Feb ish

Jamiednm (10:02) Thanks Napster

Victor_RO (10:03) Four winter tests or just three?

wingwalker (10:04) so it's actually like one test with a break

Victor_RO (10:05) Jerez and two tests in Bahrain and that's it for winter testing?

Jambo (10:05) :wave:

NapsterEps (10:05) Yes, just three tests.

NapsterEps (10:06) 12 days total.

RoutariEnjinu (10:06) If I was emporer of the Earth, there'd be so much televised winter testing.

NapsterEps (10:08) I`m interested what are Mercedes doing, are they testing the fuel management, tyre degradation or the cooling, because they are doing consistant times and i assume than they can`t be testing some performance setups.

Razgreez (10:08) what's an emporer? A merchant? one who own and emporium?

RoutariEnjinu (10:09) It's an alternative spelling of emperor I just made up

Welsh (10:09) he wants to be a penguin

Victor_RO (10:09) Any word on when and where the in-season tests will be?

Welsh (10:11) Teams have a checklist: thus they use testing to ensure everything works on the car, also they compare data generated by computer, wind tunnel etc with ontrack data to ensure they are going in right direction. Then they can look at setup and tyre data etc etc

Welsh (10:11) https://twitter.com/WilliamsF1Team/statu...

virago496 (10:12) Flippy gonna tend to his baby-list

NapsterEps (10:13) You are right but they are the only one who is doing long runs at the moment. Maybe they are ahead of others, as a Ferrari fan i hope not.

virago496 (10:14) he has dummy controls and there's a grown up in the back of the garage driving remote control

Jack McGhee (10:14) No one is doing performance runs, not until Bahrain, its too cold in jerez

iak1988 (10:14) Force india seems to be the worst of the car running Merc engines

RoutariEnjinu (10:15) What do you think of Bottas?

RoutariEnjinu (10:15) Bottas vs Massa

slideways (10:15) zzz

Jack McGhee (10:16) http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2014/01/3...

virago496 (10:16) ever since bottas did a live forum interview i cal him MAXIMUM ATTACK

Jamiednm (10:16) Mercedes are pounding in the laps aren't they?!

Andy35 (10:17) Have FI been the most unreliable so far as well iak ? they seem to be. At least we know it is them and not the engine though. Williams will be happy with their move to Mercedes.

Jack McGhee (10:19) I don't think FI is most unreliable, that title probably goes to TR

virago496 (10:19) true Andy, we have been able to rely on RBR not to do more than 4 laps a day

Andy35 (10:21) For Mercedes engines I meant Jack.

Jack McGhee (10:22) ahhhh

chumma (10:23) Autosport Live on a witch hunt against McLaren by implying they're pushing for headline times? Please...

chumma (10:23) Update on track conditions would be nice

virago496 (10:23) doesn't matter, if i can kick RBR when they are down i will

Andy35 (10:24) Talking of which they are approaching 100 laps for the engine already again today.

virago496 (10:24) nico has a hot date this afternoon.....

angrysasha (10:25) Hi all... what do you make of the very limited running that Alonso has so far done today?

virago496 (10:25) it's friday, you have to finish early :lol:

Andy35 (10:25) I am not going to defend their honor virago from your merciless beating. Might offer a small sticking plaster after though .....

NapsterEps (10:25) As it looks neither Mercedes or Ferrari engines has had any problems so far, am i wrong.

Andy35 (10:25) yes it is siesta time soon for him.

virago496 (10:26) :lol:

virago496 (10:29) they have Newey, they have enough little companies to get round the budget cap, they have everything they need to dominate, what they desperately need is a good kicking, you know me, anything to help....

chumma (10:30) Lap count anyone?

wingwalker (10:30) what's the lap count for Koba? Anyway, so good to know Caterham are getting some running!

Welsh (10:32) Red Bull cooling https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/4291...

Jamiednm (10:32) Caterhams Renault has done 15 laps without breaking down?

wingwalker (10:32) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfTSqkqCQAEx... - RB's cooling quick fix. Adrian Newey hates this picture.

virago496 (10:34) we've done 2 and 1/2 hours without red flags....

chumma (10:35) im gonna call it, Ricciardo will be first red flag.

Welsh (10:35) 2½ hours you mean

chumma (10:35) and if it isnt ricciardo it will be alonso

wingwalker (10:36) Jamiednm: even more, he improved his time since the 1.44.8 15laps done report :up:

virago496 (10:38) ty, Welsh

Richard T (10:38) Bring me a Gainomax beeaaatch

Eisthename (10:39) hey :wave:

virago496 (10:40) After Hamilton leaving, why did Mclaren wait a year to get shot of Whitmarsh and bring Dennis back?

virago496 (10:40) Welcome back Richard

Victor_RO (10:40) 64 laps for Rosberg today and we're not even half-way through the day? Impressive.

Richard T (10:41) Thanks mate!

Jamiednm (10:42) Victor, are you watching a site with a lap counter?

Andy35 (10:42) rhat rb cooling fix is ripe for some extra sponsorship

may i suggest Wrigleys Cool Breeze gum?

Victor_RO (10:42) No, I'm watching Twitter.

Victor_RO (10:43) There's a few people in my Twitter feed posting constant updates from Jerez.

virago496 (10:43) Victor is sitting near the pit entrance with a pencil and note pad...

virago496 (10:44) see, i wasn't that far off

SophieB (10:44) Mercedes look so strong, making it all the more baffling why Lewis looked so mis in his interview on sky yesterday.

virago496 (10:45) Fishermans friend, fox, trebor XXXtra strong....

Jack McGhee (10:45) Lewis has seemed pretty upbeat to me

SophieB (10:45) Did you see him talking to Ted?

Jack McGhee (10:46) yea just watched it now

Andy35 (10:46) Lewis made a great decision in hindsight moving from Mc when he did Sophie, I thought it not clever at the time

Jack McGhee (10:46) He wasn't super-happy in the interview, but I think he is generally upbeat about this year.

virago496 (10:47) he shoulda moved to RBR, nah.... too cruel to Lewis

virago496 (10:48) Juncadella?

SophieB (10:48) Yes, he's seemed generally upbeat. I tend not to put too much stock in Lewis's moods as meaning much as he seems so emotional but even so, I was surprised.

chumma (10:49) Hmmmm McLaren sat in pits for a while now wonder what theyre doing,

chumma (10:49) and as i say that, Kevin leaves the pits haha

SophieB (10:49) I am so excited about McLaren this year. Exciting looking car and the return of Ron.

chumma (10:50) ps there must be more dramas at red bull, no more laps since this morning

chumma (10:50) ps the Renault engines teams are well off the pace. Shockingly infact

Andy35 (10:52) Rb need a bigger weld on chimney maybe.

All that time on aero and now they have a metal box on the side just to make it work. ho ho

Jack McGhee (10:52) I think the reason Lewis wasn't all that happy was mentioned in the Sky thing, because he got less running in the car due to a gearbox change, which is 3+ hours.

SophieB (10:53) I hate to think how he'd be reacting if he drove for Red Bull, then.

wingwalker (10:53) RB: it maybe the same drama, the quick fix might not be enough

wewantourdarbyback (10:54) Morning all :wave:

Jack McGhee (10:54) :wave:

chumma (10:55) good evening (from Australia)

Jamiednm (10:55) Imagine the Renaults don't get it together before Australia. They'd struggle to qualify. We'd just have a Mercedes v Ferrari grid.

SophieB (10:55) I still bet RBR get all this fixed and win the championship anyway. They are the Man U of F1.

SophieB (10:56) Well, the Ferguson version anyway.

Hyatt (10:56) yep, RBR will muscle through all this

iak1988 (10:57) Interesting... FI is showing some sign of consistency here...

sergeym (10:57) I agree with Sophie

It's not the first time RB has reliability troubles. Probably more serious than ever, but still manageable.

Hyatt (10:57) all the other will trip over their own feet anyway, as always ...

Jack McGhee (10:57) So they will finish 7th then sophie?

SophieB (10:58) hahaha, that's why I stuck that Fergie qualifier in there!

Jack McGhee (10:58) Top four teams fighting for both of the championships this year will be, in my opinion, Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari, Williams ...

SophieB (10:59) Just my luck if Williams come back strong the very season they hire Massa.

SophieB (11:00) Mind you, that would be funny for the Maldonado factor. Hmmn what to hope for...

Jack McGhee (11:00) The problem with RB is not just a RB problem, for the first time in, what, a decade, the powertrains matter, for the past few years the engines have not mattered. It has been an aero race.

Diablobb81 (11:01) no problem with fuel consumption for Nico

Victor_RO (11:01) Okay guys, don't poke the red flag badger just yet... :lol:

Jack McGhee (11:01) So Red Bull can be as great as they want, if Renault don't give them the best package then it will count for nothing.

Jack McGhee (11:03) There are no guarantees in F1, just because you won 4 championships in a row does not mean you will win the next, each year is a new year and you have to fight each one.

wingwalker (11:04) see Ferrari in 2005

Hyatt (11:06) that was more a tire thingy back then iirc

Victor_RO (11:06) Or McLaren in 1992.

Eisthename (11:07) lol mercedes killing those laps.

Jack McGhee (11:07) Yea, that was a tyre thing back then, now its an engine thing.

Victor_RO (11:07) There's always a year when a previously-dominating team comes down to earth with a bang. You know, the bigger they are, the harder they fall...

virago496 (11:08) next week it will be a turbo thing...

SophieB (11:08) I think if the sport hadn't sat down and said 'how the hell can we stop Ferrari winning every damn race?' back in 2004, they'd have carried on being as successful.

Jack McGhee (11:08) I mean, just look at Williams

Jack McGhee (11:08) Infact, any team

Victor_RO (11:08) McLaren took all the championships in 1988-89-90-91 and then got dethroned by the FW14B in 92.

Victor_RO (11:10) Lunch break here, had a sandwich and now listening to Who's Next... a title which, in the context of RB potentially faltering this year, is quite appropriate. :lol:

SophieB (11:10) The rise and fall of Williams is something that endlessly fascinates me. I wonder if they ever can get back up there?

SophieB (11:11) "@MercedesAMGF1 4m

"Box Nico, box this lap" 80 laps on the board for @nico_rosberg this morning; we think he's enjoying himself... #F1 pic.twitter.com/vxD6wsmb1p"

virago496 (11:11) I'll drink to that, Victor

Jack McGhee (11:11) I think they will

Jack McGhee (11:12) I have high hopes of a good constructors position for Williams this year.

ackyson (11:14) williams won most of their tittles when Adrian Newey was with them as did McLaren then Red Bull :drunk:

UPRC (11:14) I'd hate for Williams to become another Tyrrell. That would be one of the most depressing events in the sport's history.

Victor_RO (11:14) I'm gonna make some predictions after the Bahrain tests, but at the moment, if Merc engines don't dominate the early races, I'd be quite surprised.

SophieB (11:15) Or another (original) Lotus.

Victor_RO (11:15) Unlikely I'd say. If the F1 team dies out, the engineering company will most likely remain, as well as WHP.

NapsterEps (11:16) Mercedes engines are reliable there is no doubt but are they fast i mean still nobody knows how fast are Ferrari and Mercedes engines and how do they manage fuel consuption.

Victor_RO (11:16) So Williams will continue in some way, shape or form even if they no longer continue in F1.

SophieB (11:16) Ferrari don't seem to be being talked about all that much so far. Weird considering all the focus on the driver line up.

Victor_RO (11:16) Has Juncadella been testing any LMP cars recently? :lol:

UPRC (11:19) I miss Patrick Head, but Pat Symonds is finally the replacement Williams needed, I think. :up:

Victor_RO (11:23) 91 laps for Rosberg before lunch? Wow.

Hyatt (11:23) nice stint Nico ... but since the engines need to last 5 races it doesn't really proof that much

Jack McGhee (11:24) it doesn't need to last 5 races, its 5 engines per year.

Ellios (11:24) ?

wingwalker (11:24) wait, 91?!

chumma (11:24) anyone have each cars lap count? Rosberg 91 Mag 43 Ricciardo 7, trying to work how many laps each engine manufacturer has done today

wingwalker (11:25) did he do 20+ before starting the race sim?

Hyatt (11:25) ok, so its rather 4 races then ... i got that wrong

virago496 (11:25) gonna switch computers, cya later all

Andy35 (11:25) If it was not for the fuel consumption then I think Mercedes and Ferrari engines would have a lot more power than the Renault, but given the limitation it might even up.

Honda will roll up and rock in 2015 though ... :smoking:

Hyatt (11:25) I don't remember, wing

Jack McGhee (11:25) And Cosworth

Hyatt (11:26) why should Renault be unable to provide a powerful engine ...

NapsterEps (11:26) chumma - http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=31409 it isn`t very precise but it will do the job

Gulbrandsen (11:27) Looking forward to McLaren Honda in 2015 :cool:

chumma (11:27) cheers mate

Richard T (11:27) I got a bit of catch up to do...

Victor_RO (11:30) As a reminder, a F1 race distance around Jerez is 69 laps.

Richard T (11:31) Did he do 80 laps on the trot?

virago496 (11:31) rosberg didn't do a 91 lap stint did he?

Eisthename (11:31) wow just heard on ted notebook that it takes to change new engines 3 hours now

iak1988 (11:32) Finally, FI figure out some how to put mileage on to the engines.. But it would be most welcome, if this laps were came from either HULK/Perez. They only need to understand the car much..

chumma (11:32) McLaren Honda to dominate '15

wingwalker (11:33) ok, it was 72 laps stint for Rosberg.

chumma (11:33) Interesting...Rosberg ran with his old yellow helmet in that last long stint

Hyatt (11:33) Nico did a 72lap stint according to AMuS

SophieB (11:33) I hope no-one's stolen the new helmet. Again.

wingwalker (11:33) done at the time RB guys think how much of hole they need to drill

virago496 (11:34) jesus, well done Nico

wingwalker (11:34) re: nico's helmet: could be he had a different visor in that one

Victor_RO (11:34) That's basically a race distance + lap to the grid + formation lap + slowing-down lap. :up:

virago496 (11:34) he might do another race distance this afternoon

chumma (11:35) I think Red Bull will call it quits early and shut the doors, pack up and get the heck out of Jerez. If the Caterham can manage the thick end of 40 laps today and the Red Bull has been parked for 3 or so hours now, then its obvious whatever they're trying to change is either very difficult or impossible.

virago496 (11:36) 69 laps plus out /in /warm up lap, race sim?

hamilton10000 (11:36) where can i find a lap chart

NapsterEps (11:37) http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=31409 the one i use
but it`s not very precise

AlexanderF1 (11:37) @NapsterEps f1today.net is also good as it is in english and it shows whether a car is in pit or not

NapsterEps (11:39) Thank you Alexander

hamilton10000 (11:39) thanks]

wingwalker (11:41) oh that f1today test site is neat

wingwalker (11:43) So Caterham gets the biggest amount of track time among all Renault teams? 40 laps today already

Andy35 (11:43) Impressive from Nico there on number of laps

Caterham seem to be doing all the laps for Renault. :lol:

Andy35 (11:45) Actually considering the link op between Renault Alpine and Caterham for road cars actually Caterham are the Renault works team, RB just think they are.

:up:

hamilton10000 (11:45) Alonso fastest

Welsh (11:45) wondered what has happened to kruvas live timing this year?

virago496 (11:46) I thought "Lotus" were the Renault works team..

Jack McGhee (11:47) No, Renault are just an engine/powertrain, supplier

chumma (11:47) Red Bul is works team

Richard T (11:48) Mercedes is doing what Ferrari has done for the last years. Putting a hell of a lot of laps down

Jack McGhee (11:48) Renault don't have a works team

Richard T (11:48) Hey guys, GREAT NEWS! The 2014 wallplanner is now availible :clap:

http://www.spotterguides.com/portfolio/2...

Jack McGhee (11:49) They sold their ownership of what is now the lotus team, and Renault have no ownership in red bull

Fudce (11:50) Ah, finally break time. I've had enough of people whinging about benefits already...

virago496 (11:52) thx Richard

Jack McGhee (11:52) Or you could just use Google Calendar with this Richard : http://toomuchracing.com/calendar/

Welsh (11:52) uh uh Ferrari on top

Richard T (11:53) Me and my mates has shared F1, WTCC, WEC, MotoGP and Nascar iCals on our phones, quite handy

Richard T (11:53) Thank you Jack!

angrysasha (11:54) :clap:

times mean nothing, but still

Andy35 (11:54) Works team in this sense might be the team that gets all the new bits first. If Renault only had 2 parts of something to trial which team do they give it to?

Obviously the answer is Caterham at the moment , ahem .. just to give it some track time .

Welsh (11:55) lunch https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status...

Andy35 (11:56) Fudce, I can imagine, They pop in and they say " I didn't get my benefit for not working last week and you turn around and say " Ok, but getting to more important matters, what do you think about Redbull desire for packaging v Renault engine reliability? "

Andy35 (11:57) If you did that then you would enjoy your job as all those people chat to you about F1 all day long and forget about their problems.

Andy35 (11:58) Welsh, and Massa complains about English food....

Richard T (12:02) Red Bull packing up

Fudce (12:03) I'd love to do that, but "Calls may be recorded for training purposes..." Bleh...

SophieB (12:03) @nico_rosberg 1m

Cool, day 4 of testing & already completed a full race practice. Will now hand over the car to @lewishamilton

SophieB (12:04) Was that planned? I missed that.

Victor_RO (12:04) Don't know, but it might be related to Hammy's lack of running on days 1 and 3.

virago496 (12:05) told ya Nico had a hot date this afternoon

Andy35 (12:05) Mercedes doing so many laps they may need a 3rd driver today.

Andy35 (12:07) Ok I am going to have scallops for lunch with bacon drizzled in a herb butter sauce. Who says we English do not eat well.

virago496 (12:07) schumacher could do some laps

Welsh (12:08) spare parts https://twitter.com/clubforce/status/429...

SophieB (12:08) Booooo.

hamilton10000 (12:09) @virago496 just a bit harsh

Victor_RO (12:09) "F1 Fanatic Live ‏@f1fanaticlive 2m
So, in fashion befitting the English cricket team, Rosberg is out of the car for the day just nine short of a century... #F1"

:lol:

AlexanderF1 (12:09) viargo496 or why not eddie ervine if he can handle sharks surely he can handle a turbo v6 :lol:

hamilton10000 (12:09)

virago496 (12:10) i've always said micheal can race in his sleep

Razgreez (12:11) race sheep in his sleep

Jack McGhee (12:15) Wow, full race run for Mercedes, that is pretty impressive.

Richard T (12:16) Lets see how long Fernando can go now

NapsterEps (12:17) 20 and counting

Richard T (12:18) Great

virago496 (12:18) thought eddie was in jail

Welsh (12:19) You clearly don't understand Italian law

mark f1 (12:19) just like foxy knoxy is back in jail, right....

Richard T (12:19) Ted's notebook from yesterday if anyone's interested /watch?v=SKmOwlR38mU

Jack McGhee (12:20) http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php...

virago496 (12:20) Nope, welsh

Andy35 (12:20) Hmm, guess what, might be a spot of rain in the Uk

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/r...

Jack McGhee (12:20) head aero guy is gone.

virago496 (12:20) things i understand you can count on one hand

Jack McGhee (12:20) You are KIDDING Andy??!

wingwalker (12:21) thanks Richard T

virago496 (12:22) not up here in Scotland, surely

Welsh (12:22) We have snow in Wales btw

Jack McGhee (12:22) light/medium drizzle in north west England

RoutariEnjinu (12:23) You're in Wales???

GT Racing Online Magazine (12:24) What's Alonso's approx. lap count for today insofar?

mark f1 (12:25) 62 now

Welsh (12:25) 63

Andy35 (12:26) So Welsh is in Wales, where are you Jack McGhee? Hmm, or should I call you Remember Bannockburn Jack McGhee ?

Welsh (12:27) f1 racing 2014 https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status...

Jack McGhee (12:27) I'm in Merseyside

Victor_RO (12:28) Someone tweeted that Red Bull have given up and are packing up already...

Andy35 (12:29) right so Mercedes engines have now done 200 laps today whilst Renault have done 45 in the works Caterham team and less than 20 in the non works teams.

Jack McGhee (12:29) Andrew Benson tweeted it

Victor_RO (12:29) I'd laugh heartily if Marussia come back out and beat Ricciardo's time. :lol:

Andy35 (12:30) Remember when Mclaren were last in pre season tests ...

Andy35 (12:31) wasn't that the octopussy exhaust season ? My memory is not good.

virago496 (12:31) so Andy, now you know where we all live, where do you lay your hat?

Jack McGhee (12:32) Thing with that though, those were the years when the cars were really not all that different, certainly not the engines, so if a team like McLaren had a deficit they still had a good chance of just jumping back in with the pack with a sneaky update. It's a lot harder to do that this year, so much is new and changing.

f1fastestlap (12:32) So Lewis driving this afternoon...

Andy35 (12:32) Kent! I am originally from Rochdale but someone needed to come down here and show the ladies what a real man was.

dhcnet (12:32) Welsh, congratulate to post image at a Mclaren in the Tedesco Extra. Here in Brazil now none ever F1 exposes a truth so close to your fans!

Welsh (12:33) McLaren has a boil on its nose https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/429...

virago496 (12:33) :lol:

virago496 (12:34) together we span the country just about

Jack McGhee (12:34) The cars are growing so fast :cry:

not so long ago they were born, and now puberty :eek:

Victor_RO (12:35) "Pablo Elizalde ‏@EliGP 55s
Time to pack up for Red Bull pic.twitter.com/YkZXLxqXVD"

Welsh (12:35) yeah the teenager Red Bull won't stop smoking behind the pit garage.

Andy35 (12:35) Welsh, that is actually a genital wart :blush:

Welsh (12:36) So unfair

Jack McGhee (12:37) ... or you could say the red-bull was still-born :rolleyes:

NapsterEps (12:37) Does somebody else have a problem with f1today timesheet.

Welsh (12:38) https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status...

Victor_RO (12:39) Dashing out early to avoid the traffic, I see. Or to get to the Channel by tomorrow morning.

virago496 (12:39) Full update, not to tell us whats going on, but new car entirely

Jack McGhee (12:40) Finished testing eh, I don't even remember them starting ... :wave:

see you at Bahrain RB

virago496 (12:41) Can we not, Jack?

Jack McGhee (12:41) Not what?

virago496 (12:41) back to sticking caffeine in cans Red Bull....

virago496 (12:42) Not see them in Bahrain

Jack McGhee (12:42) ohhh

Jack McGhee (12:45) haha, pretty nicely done here :
https://twitter.com/FIAWEC/status/429233...

Welsh (12:45) Be interesting to see what Adrian Newey comes up with solution wise.

ackyson (12:48) it might be out of his ball park :wave:

Victor_RO (12:49) Has Newey ever designed a turbo car? As far as I know his first work in F1 was the March 881, and that was normally aspirated already.

Jack McGhee (12:49) I imagine there will plenty of Renault reps working with him too, Gary Anderson says one of the reasons may be poor placement of electronics which Renault aren't happy with him about.

Welsh (12:49) I can imagine Lotus feel their decision to delay has paid off now.

Razgreez (12:50) likely a collective sigh of relief by the rest of the paddock if the RB is lacking in performance this season because they know that when newey gets the kinks sorted out it'll be 2011/13 all over again

Jack McGhee (12:50) I imagine Lotus has more pressing problems anyway

Jack McGhee (12:51) Newey is good, but he's not the only designer who has designed race/championship winning cars on the grid

Jack McGhee (12:51) F1 has loads of smart and talented people.

Jack McGhee (12:51) There has been a weird fetish about Newey lately

Razgreez (12:53) i'm basing my statements purely on track record

Jack McGhee (12:54) Well, take 2009, he was creamed by Brawn, and this new Merc is very much a new Brawn creation

Jack McGhee (12:55) Even some of Redbulls titles were won right at the end of the season, like Vettels first title and the year that Alonso took it down to the wire, they have not always run away with it.

Razgreez (12:55) conversely take 2009 and the RB was the fastest non-DD car

Welsh (12:55) You think a team would find a way to miniaturise those air blowers to fit near the hot stuff, so as to blow away the hot air and cool em down.

travbrad (12:55) RBR was the fastest car towards the end of 2009, once they had a DD

Jack McGhee (12:56) Well, yea because Newey is one of the best, I'm not denying his talent, I'm just calling into question the feeling a lot of people seem to have that he is unbeatable.

Razgreez (12:56) by the end of the season it was clearly the fastest car

travbrad (12:56) which they were told was illegal, which is why they didnt have it at start of the season

Welsh (12:57) Would be fun to spend a day at a track side with Gary Anderson watching the cars fly by - you could learn such a lot.

Razgreez (12:57) of course he's not unbeatable. Byrne for example proved more than his match

Jack McGhee (12:58) James Allison at Ferrari is a major talent too.

Jack McGhee (12:59) I saw a twitter pic of Gary holding a mic talking to someone on camera, does anyone know who he was filming for? (the mic had no markings, just a plain black one)

Andy35 (13:00) Thing is Newey before has pushed the packaging to make the aero work and not backed down and it has proven to work. Now it maybe that it is such a big step on the power side he will have to back down.

That little chimney on the side of a RB, that is a sign of this I think. Caterham in their "simple" car are racking up the laps.....

jonpollak (13:00) WAIT...THERE\'S A LAST MINUTE LAUNCH OF A REAL HOT CONTENDER

Jack McGhee (13:01) https://twitter.com/WilliamsF1Team/statu...

Richard T (13:02) HOLY! That is quite an marketing oppurtunity there Jp! You'll get my vote

Victor_RO (13:02) Jp: :rotfl:

jonpollak (13:03) Get your ass over there and "like" the sucker

Welsh (13:03) lunch fish n chips n curry

milestone 11 (13:03) No Victor RO he hasn't.

Victor_RO (13:04) So he did start with the March then?

milestone 11 (13:07) Yes, the 881 was his first F1 design. He was in America before that.

Richard T (13:10) Swedish media inside caterham says the mapping Renault supplied to the teams today is 150bhp off maximum power

iak1988 (13:13) Its seems the new RBR comes with the crackers installed in the car for the post race celebration..

Victor_RO (13:15) Have Renault gone for titanium conrods? :lol:

Victor_RO (13:15) If you get that reference...

Jack McGhee (13:17) Bernie Ecclestone has dismissed the sport's new V6 turbo era as "completely unnecessary nonsense"

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/31...

Victor_RO (13:18) In other news, fans dismiss the totality of Bernie Ecclestone's comments and decisions over the last 10 years as "completely unnecessary nonsense".

Victor_RO (13:18) In Bernie's dream world, I suspect any new engine formula would have been delayed to 2030?

Jack McGhee (13:20) Or it would need Bernie branding etched onto each engine and the teams would have to pay him for the pleasure.

Victor_RO (13:20) Or would we have been stuck with the same frozen engine formula until the end of time?

Jack McGhee (13:20) Or it would need Bernie branding etched onto each engine and the teams would have to pay him for the pleasure.

Jack McGhee (13:20) wtf, weird double posting.

Welsh (13:21) didn't Bernie hate the V8 engines too?

Victor_RO (13:21) Bernie is old, he hates everything that's new and innovative.

Victor_RO (13:21) GET OFF MY LAWN, YOU INNOVATIVE BASTARDS!

Jack McGhee (13:24) It is bizarre that someone in a very powerful position in F1 has trouble operating a rotating door.

Richard T (13:24) Im quite impressed by the amount of detail in your livery Jp.. Manager, FBI surveillance and everything

travbrad (13:27) That Nigerian team seems to have a higher budget than HRT did

Victor_RO (13:28) They would have that, yeah. :rotfl:

Welsh (13:28) Never be fooled by Bernie's stupid old man act - it is an act.

Welsh (13:29) He didn't get to where he is today acting in the best interests of the sport.

Richard T (13:29) I think they just took over the HRT base

Victor_RO (13:29) Bernie is an egotistical maniacal evil old man. There.

Welsh (13:30) :eek:

Richard T (13:31) The cashflow in/out of FOM must be like 98/2%

Fudce (13:33) And that's work finished for the week

Afternoon again chaps

Jack McGhee (13:33) :wave:

virago496 (13:34) what's "work"?

Fudce (13:35) it's what you call "Slack"

Jack McGhee (13:35) It's being a RedBull engineer :lol:

jonpollak (13:35) "Welsh: He didn't get to where he is today acting in the best interests of the sport. "
:lol:

niether NigerianStreamingClub OR I got where we are today by acting in the interests of the sport

jonpollak (13:37) Junkie in P1

Welsh (13:37) How can you trade blows with each other if you in two totally opposite points? Autosport you are drunk - go home

jonpollak (13:37) Mags in P1
It's a battle Royale out there

Andy35 (13:37) So Bernie said

"who felt the new engine was better suited to endurance or the world touring car championship."

Endurance ? Someone tell Renault .... :lol:

Welsh (13:39) track is drying out

jonpollak (13:40) I trade blow with people all around the world..
What's the big deal?

jonpollak (13:40) sorry..did I read that wrong?

Welsh (13:40) FIA to ban F1 noses http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php...

Jack McGhee (13:41) :lol:

Andy35 (13:41) you're not a banker then JP, they blow trades...

Welsh (13:42) Junkadella leads the times.

jonpollak (13:42) Welsh..you should work for News International..
That is NOT what the FIA is saying

virago496 (13:42) i thought the noses had passed a crash test?

Andy35 (13:43) FIA makes me laugh, they set the rules on the noses to make them more safe, the teams comply, now they are having second doubts. They don't seem to have enough collective brainpower in the FIA to handle such an advanced sport.

jonpollak (13:43) Now THAT's well played Andy :up:

Fudce (13:44) I want the FIA to investigate the safety of DoubleDabbi

virago496 (13:44) typical FIA, set the rules and then complain about the interpretation by the teams

virago496 (13:45) i could just have copied you and pasted, Andy

wingwalker (13:45) "It is understood that some teams have exploited the regulations to produce noses that comply with both the technical regulations and crash tests, but may not actually be tough enough to provide maximum protection in the event of an accident." ????????????

Jack McGhee (13:46) :confused:

wingwalker (13:47) so good enough for a crash test but not good enough in a crash? and how would you know other than crash testing?

virago496 (13:47) FIA stands for Failed In Autosport

Jack McGhee (13:49) It must be their annual piss-up over there today.

Welsh (13:49) Who noes what goes on at the FIA.

virago496 (13:50) it's one of their Cock-ups, thats for sure

Jack McGhee (13:50) ham-fisted politics is what goes on in the FIA

antrock (13:50) What they mean is the noses comply with crash test rule (head on) but look dangerous if they get hit at some angle. Marrusia's nose looks it could snap very easily

jonpollak (13:50) Maybe THAT's why they issed the following statement:
FIA APPROVES NEW CONTENDER

Welsh (13:50) I am sure there will be more picking at the nose debate as the season progresses. But it maybe less of a tissue by the time we get downunder.

Jack McGhee (13:51) :rolleyes:

Jack McGhee (13:51) Where is Hamilton anyway? I thought he was taking over

RoutariEnjinu (13:52) Something something something his dog

jonpollak (13:52) oh the humanity

RoutariEnjinu (13:52) There's time for another race simulation if there are no red flags

Welsh (13:52) He had trouble with Britney promising not to break the car this time.

Welsh (13:54) Alonso reads the live forum section https://twitter.com/InsideFerrari/status...

Jack McGhee (13:56) I can see it in his eyes, he's thinking "That Jack fella is spot on, all the time"

jonpollak (13:56) MyHammy on track now

virago496 (13:57) yeah, Jack, he said that as he walked past me, just mispronounced your name as Andy35

Victor_RO (13:58) RB dead-last and with the fewest laps? Allow me to laugh. :lol:

virago496 (13:59) Victor, you are always allowed to laugh at RB

Razgreez (13:59) so he's supposed to do 108 laps in order to "balance out the mileage"... and in two hours no less

jonpollak (13:59) permission granted

Victor_RO (13:59) :lol:

Razgreez (14:01) Lauda had to join RB rather than mercedes. They have similar traits i.e. very few like/liked them

Andy35 (14:02) Apparently Jack, Alonso now calls you McGhee35 you are getting so cool and sexy with your comments :up:

virago496 (14:03) :lol:

Andy35 (14:04) One day you might get from 35 all the way up to 496 !

And become viraGOD

Jack McGhee (14:04) :blush:

Welsh (14:04) what does the 35 stand for? IQ? Inches?

Andy35 (14:05) Andy496 ... yes, that looks good......

Razgreez (14:06) Time to head home - parting is such sweet sorrow... Till the next test then

Andy35 (14:06) Actually it is my house number.

I guess everyone goes silent with that sad hundrum story behind it .... :blush:

Welsh (14:06) Caterham packing up

Welsh (14:07) https://twitter.com/CaterhamF1/status/42...

Andy35 (14:07) bye Rafgreez ! :wave:

Richard T (14:07) My house number is 8... Just to make you more comfy andy

Jack McGhee (14:08) :wave:

raz

jonpollak (14:11) me too Richard!!!

jonpollak (14:11) Here is my address, bank sort code and password also....: bumdedbumdebum

Jack McGhee (14:12) http://goo.gl/uuE3Rx

Richard T (14:13) Dont give it or some creepy forum member will come and rape you!

Jambo (14:13)

jonpollak (14:14) That's NSC's team principal Jack

Jack McGhee (14:15) I'm pretty sure that is how Lotus is funding itself at the moment too.

Richard T (14:16) And then pays the FOM fee with it! :clap:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php...

Richard T (14:16) Coffee brake, ciao bellas

jonpollak (14:17) :wave:

Jack McGhee (14:18) doesn't that get your feet wet?

Welsh (14:19) finally a der galf

Jack McGhee (14:20) Sutil crashed again? tut tut tut

ColchesterF1 (14:20) :wave:

jonpollak (14:21) hey Colchy

Welsh (14:22) Appears the Sauber keeps outwitting Sutil.

Welsh (14:22) https://twitter.com/benedwardstv/status/...

Richard T (14:25) Holy s*it thats HOT

Diablobb81 (14:25) Crushtil

Jack McGhee (14:27) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvonclHU...

Jack McGhee (14:29) Interesting ... https://twitter.com/SomersF1/status/4292...

Richard T (14:30) Hmm... I though all teams had to have the new mclaren LCD dash?

Victor_RO (14:31) Not necessarily.

Victor_RO (14:31) At least I don't think they have to, but they might need to.

Richard T (14:33) Are Autosport secretly wishing bad luck upon Red Bull

Welsh (14:34) yup Red Bull last on the list.

Jack McGhee (14:34) I think that is for the wheel, that rever meter and delta is not on the wheel, so may not be covered by regulations

Jack McGhee (14:34) *rev

Richard T (14:36) Ok

Richard T (14:38) Always wodered why Newey not has his rev counter on the steering wheel

Richard T (14:38) I mean the other way: Why does ONLY newey have his rev counter off the steering wheel

Victor_RO (14:38) Well, since the damn thing is on the dash, it doesn't rotate with the steering wheel and should be readable more of the time.

Andy35 (14:39) The Ferrari still looks the ugliest in some Autosport Live pics, it really does look like an elephant has sat on the front and broken it.

Richard T (14:39) The view of the LEDs must be much better if it's fixed and not moving around

Welsh (14:40) Massa goes fastest

AlexanderF1 (14:42) well thats massa wdc 2014 no arguments :clap:

just joking

Lord Snooty (14:43) okey; a williams on top? now i know there was something funny in the tea...

SophieB (14:43) "Massa goes fastest" such words are like knives to my soul.

Jambo (14:44) I hope your soul continues to be knifed

Lord Snooty (14:44) @sophieb: On the other hand the words "Williams on top" are bliss to me... :cool:

Welsh (14:45) filth

Jambo (14:45) :mad:

SophieB (14:45) I shall continue to suffer, my cross to bear.

study (14:45) Lewis already done more miles in this single sitting the redbull all week

study (14:46) The williams and FI are both looking good

ColchesterF1 (14:47) For those who are interested. Before the test begun. Red Bull were favourites for WCC by a long way (in betting terms). Now Mercedes are the clear favourites!

Welsh (14:47) yes, well, moving on

Victor_RO (14:47) Anyone watching the Bathurst 12h next week?

Richard T (14:47) "Felipe, Fernando is faster than you!"

ColchesterF1 (14:47) And Chilton is 2500/1 to win the title... :up:

Richard T (14:48) Victor: i am!

ColchesterF1 (14:48) Yes Victor! :up:

RoutariEnjinu (14:48) Is it on UK freeview/internet streaming?

Andy35 (14:48) The thing is that although lots of laps, not many laps, if at all at full whack engine rev wise.

So come QP1 in Aus perhaps Renault will have the best engine?

Never count chickens before they are hatched. I feel there are a lot of twists and turns still to go.

Victor_RO (14:48) Should be streamed live on the official website with Radio Le Mans commentary.

Richard T (14:48) Maybe NSC can supply a stream for the race?

Richard T (14:49) Ah thats great!

RoutariEnjinu (14:49) :clap:

ColchesterF1 (14:49) Victor, are you a member of the MWMLC?

Victor_RO (14:49) Although last year their satellite link broke around start time, and we got the "No Image" card with RLM commentary for the first 15 mins.

Victor_RO (14:49) ColchesterF1: yes indeed.

RoutariEnjinu (14:50) Martin Whitmarsh McLaren Leaving Club?

Richard T (14:50) Im a member of the Collective as well

Jack McGhee (14:50) More Wine More Lager Club?

ColchesterF1 (14:50) Close! The Midweek Motorsport Listeners Collective!

Victor_RO (14:50) We need Allan McNish to squeeze in a "Hello Collective!" on 5Live this year. :lol:

ColchesterF1 (14:50) *Mid Week, just to make sense

Richard T (14:51) Catching up on the latest podcast after this is over

study (14:51) I wonder what Leaving present Martin will have recieved

Victor_RO (14:51) I actually met Hindy at Le Mans last year after the Nissan ZEOD unveiling down in the village on the Friday of race week.

ColchesterF1 (14:52) A golden boot i presume, or chrome.

Welsh (14:52) oo red flag

ColchesterF1 (14:53) I met Hindy at Britcar 24. The year a Honda Jazz was disqualified for being 'Too Loud' :lol:

Richard T (14:53) I saw a bunch of RLM cars leaving the track on friday morning, but nothing else

ColchesterF1 (14:54) Magnussen

Welsh (14:54) uh uh McLaren failure

Victor_RO (14:54) Richard T: this week's podcast ran into overtime with all the discussions after Daytona.

ColchesterF1 (14:54) He's spun off

Victor_RO (14:54) Has he spun or has he parked it?

Richard T (14:54) Yeah, can imagine a rant or two about the safety of the DPs...

Jack McGhee (14:54) McLarens 2014 WCC has been revoked!!

ColchesterF1 (14:55) https://twitter.com/AndyC_F1/status/4292...

Victor_RO (14:55) That does look like he's parked backwards after a spin.

Welsh (14:56) I think he pete burns it.

Richard T (14:57) Rain races this year will be hilarious :clap:

Diablobb81 (14:57) noob

Welsh (14:58) Final day conclusion "MASSA IS FASTER THAN ALONSO"

virago496 (14:58) poor lewis, has his racesim interrupted

virago496 (14:59) must be Dennis trying to get back at him

Victor_RO (14:59) Well folks, we're moving office here at my workplace over the weekend, so that means packing up stuff, including our workstations. So... see you all here for the next tests then.

jonpollak (14:59) I see what you did there virago :eek:

virago496 (15:00) cya Vic

Richard T (15:00) Bye Victor :wave:

virago496 (15:00) Ya did, JP?

ColchesterF1 (15:00) Bye Victor :wave:

jonpollak (15:01) good luck V-RO

Fudce (15:01) Despite his little spin today, Magnussen has impressed thus far.

Jamiednm (15:01) What is the correct plural for 'Ferrari'? Ferraris or Ferrarai?

Jack McGhee (15:01) :wave:

virago496 (15:02) I've actually been dancing round the room earlier when i heard i coulda been coming off welsh his books, then got the date for driving course and crashed back down to earth

Richard T (15:02) 1 Ferrari, 2 Ferrari

slideways (15:02) Ferrero

milestone 11 (15:02) So subtle that he didn't understand it himself jp.

Richard T (15:03) "the two Ferraris of Raikkonen and Alonso" sounds quite correct however..

jonpollak (15:03) correct

Fudce (15:04) No no... they're Italian. The same place as Rome - so they use Roman Numerals...
Ferrari
Ferrarii
Ferrariii
Ferrariv...etc

virago496 (15:04) lol Fudce :lol:

jonpollak (15:05) subtlety is wonderful

Welsh (15:05) my books?

Welsh (15:05) virago what chu onna bout?

jonpollak (15:05) UNLIKE the NSC entry in the 2014 F1 World Championship

virago496 (15:05) yup, i'm one of your customers

Richard T (15:06) Ferrari FXIIII T

Jamiednm (15:06) "I've actually been dancing round the room earlier when i heard i coulda been coming off welsh his books, then got the date for driving course and crashed back down to earth"

That literally makes no sense.

Grundle (15:06) News just in, Red Bull become ambassadors for Greenpeace

jonpollak (15:06) post us a link to your product :clap:

Welsh

Jambo (15:06) FXIVT

travbrad (15:07) Williams on top? Bet they are glad they switched to Mercedes engines now

virago496 (15:07) welcome to my world Jamie, i make no sense

ali.unal (15:07) I've just looked at the time table yonder, and read Bed Bull Renault.

ali.unal (15:08) Hi, by the way.

Fudce (15:09) Hi

Jambo (15:09) :wave:

Richard T (15:10) Hellomoto

ali.unal (15:12) Wow, what a terrible first test for the Bull. I've read a blogger -claiming it has inside info- says that the problem is catastrophic with the Renault.

milestone 11 (15:12) :wave:

Jambo

Welsh (15:13) surely the problem is with Red Bull rather than Renault?

ali.unal (15:13) I'm a bit late to the party, so, just shocked.

virago496 (15:13) it's never good when the car designer flies back to the factory, ali

milestone 11 (15:13) TJ13 Ali?

ali.unal (15:13) But Welsh, other Renaults are not doing well either, as I understood.

Welsh (15:14) Caterham seem ok

travbrad (15:14) I always thought that was the best chance of the other teams beating RBR this year, didn't expect it to be this bad though

ali.unal (15:14) milestone 11, Indeed TJ13. One member posted it on the forum.

Richard T (15:14) I dont believe that 20 weeks fixing timeframe.. But they sure will be struggling come Bahrain

travbrad (15:14) caterham was running their engine 150hp down from what i heard

ColchesterF1 (15:15) Here is whats gonna happen. Red Bull start off poorly. Find form, Vettel wins the final double points race to win the title by a point.

ali.unal (15:15) There is still hell of a time before FP1 Melbourne. Surely it is a setback, but 20 weeks... a bit stretch.

Welsh (15:15) 150bhp is nothing when reliability matters.

Fudce (15:15) Renault is not doing well, but the problem is the shrinkwrapped Red Bull

ali.unal (15:16) 150hp corresponds to energy recovery system outpuy, travbard?

jonpollak (15:16) oh dear..
Looks like I've caused a ßhitstorm in the Livery thread.
After all, what's a Livery thread without a ßhitstorm anyway?

Jamiednm (15:16) Does Riccardio ever not have a beaming smile across his face??

virago496 (15:16) TJ13 has learnt that Renault are having trouble with their engine, specifically the crankshaft and it was described as a flaw. For months now TJ13 have been hearing rumours of a certain team having problems with their engines and that they just could not make it last.

This has to do with the internal vibrations that a V6 engine creates as apposed to a V8, the latter running much more smoothly. Add in the complexity of the turbo harvesting power as well as KERS… Tomorrow we may see Renault (and perhaps other engined teams) circulating at relatively low speeds so if track times appear slow, it is because they are

Jambo (15:17) Most of the made up ones look like one jp

virago496 (15:17) that one ali?

ColchesterF1 (15:18) @JP I've just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard after seeing that picture in the livery thread. :lol:

ali.unal (15:19) Yes virago, but there was also a 20-week reference.

iak1988 (15:19) Force India seems to fix their bugs which they had on last 3 days...

Andy35 (15:19) Said Richard

Richard T: Ferrari FXIIII T

Said Andy

Andy35 : RedBull FIIIIX IT

virago496 (15:20) things are looking up for mercedes and ferrari then

virago496 (15:21) thought Jim job was fixing it?

jonpollak (15:21) Please post your support/outrage there Colchy :up:

Fudce (15:21) And if it still doesn't work in Australia...
RedBull F****K IT

Jambo (15:22) I wonder if those complaining have ever seen the nigerian scam emails?

ali.unal (15:22) Andy35, nicely done :lol:

ColchesterF1 (15:22) What was the phrase you'd use in the last livery competition? Cant recall it JP!

ali.unal (15:22) I wonder if anyone responds to those Nigerian scam e-mails?

jonpollak (15:22) OR..the year long NSC campaign for your money Jambo

Welsh (15:23) I think the Renault problem is more to do with a Newey design, than anything else.

jonpollak (15:23) Something smells fishy?

slideways (15:23) Ricciardo looks like he's enjoying the attention in that pic.

jonpollak (15:24) oh that's it..
Go into the thread and say how this 'Tips the Scales' of acceptability

ColchesterF1 (15:25) I just remember seeing it in nearly every post! Come to me eventually, quite sad that people find that Racist. Ross' comment sums it up. (Especially you should be DQ'd for not using the template)

virago496 (15:25) Nice mastering of the dutch language there JP

travbrad (15:25) I think he has that huge grin on his face no matter what happens, he is like Raikkonen except he smiles

Fudce (15:25) Ricciardo would look happy even if he ws stuck behind an annoying brat kicking his chair on a plane. That guy doesn't have a "miserable" or "annoyed" face.

slideways (15:25) Haha the anti kimi I like it

Welsh (15:25) well he is Australian

Welsh (15:26) apparently he wears a tickling prince albert - whatever that is.

Sheepmachine (15:28) :wave:

Good afternoon, how goes the test?

jonpollak (15:31) Cheers Jambo :up:

Richard T (15:32) Sheep: Depends on if you are an RB fan or not :lol:

Andy35 (15:33) It has to be said that the phrase '"tickling prince albert?" does not come up that often on this thread.

I would guess Queen Victoria would say " We are not amused"

Andy35 (15:35) Mercedes seem to have racked up 350 laps today

Time to take off the rev limiter and go for those last 5 minute media laps boys !

gdon (15:35) I highly doubt Queen Victoria cares about this thread

Jambo (15:35) my pleasure, I mixed it up a little from your phrasing

jonpollak (15:37) Lenny Kraviz had an Albert

Andy35 (15:38) my cat Chester, an avid F1 fan, is with me today.

We rescued him from Bernies mountain top lair

http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/chester.j...

ColchesterF1 (15:39) Doesn't seem to phased by testing though...

Welsh (15:39) oh you have a nice cat

Jamiednm (15:39) Who's Chesters favourite team Andy? CATerham?

Welsh (15:39) not sure about Bet Lynch blanket though

Richard T (15:40) I wanna have a pet as well

Andy35 (15:41) He says he is just practicing for Sunday afternoons when everyone is in fuel saving mode from lap 10 onwards.

Richard T (15:41) Meanwhile at Jerez:
thejudge13 ‏@thejudge13 29s
Strange things at #f1 pic.twitter.com/EZR6q0kb69

Andy35 (15:41) Jamiednm .... :lol:

Welsh (15:43) The boss https://twitter.com/WilliamsF1Team/statu...

Welsh (15:43) I can't believe Sir Frank Williams is taller than Felipe Massa!!!!!!

Richard T (15:43) Wow massa must be short

Richard T (15:44) :lol:

Welsh

ColchesterF1 (15:44) You see, Felipe is actually proposing to Sir Frank.

study (15:44) I hope massa does well, but he'd never have survived there under frank and pat

Richard T (15:45) I like the new Williams caps

Richard T (15:45) could be a fashion brand

Welsh (15:45) I bet Sir Frank is telling him how wonderful English food is.

virago496 (15:45) Massa isn't that short!!! cruel people, he sitting in his baby chair!!

jonpollak (15:45) Wait.. I found the perfect retort to the outrage over the new entry in the livery comp.

Fudce (15:46) "The secret to a good fish and chips, is a soaking of vinegar"

Andy35 (15:46) :up:

To Frank, hope he has more to smile about this year. Takes a lot go keep going when had a big hit like he has, year after year. He must be mentally as tough as they come.

Hopefully that young fan talking to him in that picture will spur him on.

Fudce (15:47) Virago: Why do you think he's called "Felipe baby"?

Jambo (15:47) best gif?

Jack McGhee (15:47) No, Fudce, it's mayonnaise

Welsh (15:47) It helps to have a sense of humour in this live forum.

Richard T (15:48) Lots of interesting people in that gif. Bernie, Lewis, Nico, An elderly fan, and... DC?

Welsh (15:48) Rob Smedley Felipe Massa we know who wears the nappy in that relationship - ooo red flag

ColchesterF1 (15:48) I hope somewhere, all of these conversations are archived somewhere. We'll be starts of a book soon. Probably not a film though, wouldn't be a thriller

Andy35 (15:48) That was a very funny comment Welsh and some good replies

Which reminds me. I have a question

Why do people who post on the forum about live testing do not come on here?

Do we all smell?

Jambo (15:49) in the wall apparently for Magnussen

ColchesterF1 (15:49) https://twitter.com/AndyC_F1/status/4292...

Diablobb81 (15:49) Cue Benny Hill theme

Andy35 (15:49) They do that during racing too, they post on the forum but do not come on the live forum ? Why ????? :confused:

Welsh (15:49) ah a rookie makes a mistake.

virago496 (15:50) it's a crash test dummy!!

Richard T (15:50) Always skip the first and the last run they said...

Welsh (15:50) Because Andy, you scare em

ColchesterF1 (15:50) Maybe it's many aliases of Rolf

antrock (15:50) Renault are not a rookie company :lol:

SophieB (15:50) "Do we all smell?"

I certainly smell. Real answer speaking personally is that I forget this thing is here.

study (15:51) I post on both cause I'm special

Fudce (15:51) People are too worried about people having opinions that might not be the same as theirs

Welsh (15:51) I so disagree

Fudce (15:51) I mean - I don't come here on race day or qualy, but that's because I like to watch the TV with no distractions during the race. I still pop in here during practice and post-race

study (15:52) yeah but Rolf never posted on the forum?

Fudce (15:52) HOW DARE YOU!? That's it I'm never coming again Welsh

ColchesterF1 (15:52) Maybe because they can't quote here. So can't vent their rage.

Jambo (15:52) is rolf still about? I blocked him years ago haha

virago496 (15:52) people are afraid they find out they're as simple as i am

ColchesterF1 (15:52) Probably, but he's just talking to himself nowadays :up:

study (15:52) you have to be careful on here if you have sky streaming as sky is about 30 secs behind

Andy35 (15:53) Don't say that Colchester.

Maybe Rolf123 will come back as

ROLF35

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

Diablobb81 (15:53) And here is the RB test in Jerez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yoSM9G00...

Jambo (15:53) ROLF6

GustavoB (15:54) I´m not a regular "poster" LOL but I´m ofter around
:up:

virago496 (15:54) he could be anyone of us you know

ColchesterF1 (15:54) 321floR

Jambo (15:54) virago letting his identity slip there

Welsh (15:54) You can get cream for that.

study (15:54) I'm Rolf!

Jambo (15:54)

Welsh (15:55) I'm Rolf's wife

Richard T (15:55) Im Ralf

Jambo (15:55) I'm james

Fudce (15:55) I'm Spartacus! (wait, what?)

Jambo (15:55) JamboETX on twitter

virago496 (15:55) Spartacus moment there...

Jambo (15:56) And jamboGT everywhere else!

Jambo (15:56) :smoking:

cokeb (15:56) No, I'm Rolf!

ColchesterF1 (15:56) Another person i've missed is Coral. He was funny, would get so wound up with his conspiracy theories when Hamilton and Button were team mates!

Welsh (15:56) yeah Jambo gets everywhere

ColchesterF1 (15:56) Or she...

Richard T (15:56) U got a new follower Jambo

SophieB (15:56) Coral is a lady, I'm pretty sure.

study (15:57) I thought Coral was female?

ColchesterF1 (15:57) Shows how often I appear here then... Part timer me...

study (15:57) She still around but for some reason she seems to have gone off Lewis

Andy35 (15:58) Coral was a lady

virago496 (15:58) I'm not sure i remember Coral, musta been before my time..

SophieB (15:58) She definitely still posts.

ColchesterF1 (15:58) Well... Now I feel even more stupid than normal! :lol:

study (15:58) ha, lewis waiting for green

Coral (15:59) Ahem...I'm still here you know! And yes, I am a lady :stoned:

virago496 (15:59) "Andy35: Coral was a lady" and what did you do to stop her being a lady?

SophieB (15:59) Hey, Coral!

virago496 (15:59) :lol:

Andy35 (15:59) Actually so am I.

I didn't want to say beforehand so Ensign didn't feel guilty about posting comments about grid girls, especially oriental ones.

Mandy35

Fudce (16:00) Speak of the devil

ColchesterF1 (16:00) Well. This is even more awkward.

Coral (16:00) Andy35...what do you mean I WAS a lady?! :eek:

Coral (16:00) Andy35...what do you mean I WAS a lady?! :eek:

Welsh (16:00) Andy is Mandy?

virago496 (16:00) oh oh, hide Andy

ColchesterF1 (16:01) Andy is actually Mrs Andy.

SophieB (16:01) I wonder what Merc were up to there? Sounds odd.

Coral (16:01) Hi Sophie! :wave:

Andy35 (16:02) Yes was a lady yesterday Coral
You are a lady today Coral
You will be a lady tomorrow Coral

With any luck you still might be a lady when RedBull win their next WCC !!!!

Coral (16:02) Hi Andy, nice to see you!

Andy35 (16:03) Same to you Coral :cool:

Welsh (16:03) till next testing :wave:

ColchesterF1 (16:03) I know a few of us are on Twitter. Anyone willing to share their @?

I'm @Christian_Rose1

Fudce (16:04) I rarely use it, but you can probably guess mine

virago496 (16:04) Can still see the laser target-er on your forehead, Andy

Coral (16:04) Oh my gosh ColchesterF1...I know you! I'm elizabeth_coral on twitter as you know

ColchesterF1 (16:05) HA! Mega. Small world

ackyson (16:05) see you all at the next test :clap:

sergeym (16:05) I'm @sergeym90

Fudce (16:05) Yeah,is a lovely shade of pink too Virago

virago496 (16:05) @Virago496 , what else?

Andy35 (16:06) I think on twitter I am @THEREALAndy35 or something

Richard T (16:06) @RichardTrange

ColchesterF1 (16:06) Hang on, does that mean there's a FAKE Andy somewhere??!

Fudce (16:07) Anyway... been a fun week guys (and gals) cya next test!

milestone 11 (16:07) :wave:

Hasta Bahrein

Fudce (16:07) Colch - Andy Peters is the Fake Andy

Jambo (16:07) a 35th one as well!

ColchesterF1 (16:07) I already followed you Richard! Ages ago, again small world!!!

Jambo (16:07) 1 Massa (Williams) 1m28.229s, 86 laps

good number of laps

Coral (16:07) I'm @elizabeth_coral on twitter.

SophieB (16:08) Bye, folks - nice talking to you, see you in Bahrain :wave:

Coral (16:08) How many laps did Lewis do?

Richard T (16:08) Next test is 19-22 Feb, until then... CYA everyone :wave:

ColchesterF1 (16:08) 41

Coral (16:09) Thanks Colchester F1

virago496 (16:09) cya Guys/Gals

ColchesterF1 (16:10) Right, I'm outta here. Pleasure as always ladies and gents. Until next time :wave:

Andy35 (16:10) Lap wise Mercedes engines rock. Lewis just did a load of laps this afternoon that made RB blush. So easy.

Mind you speed is where it matters.

Jambo (16:12) :wave:

have fun people

Andy35 (16:13) you too jambo

Andy35 (16:14) I'm going to hang around a bit as I am billy no mates, till my daughter rings me up to pick her up from the bus stop.

Andy35 (16:16) and if by magic she rings

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